8 Years of suffering under Obama.
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And the tan suit disgusting
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moksha wrote:I think we need to acknowledge that Republicans will say anything, even if most of it does not hold water. Think of it as either apologetics or talking points from Moscow.
Ain't that the truth! It is incredible what rationalizations and excuses they come up with! Like, for example, Trump taking credit for "VA Choice legislation co-sponsored by John McCain and signed into law by President Obama, before Trump even ran for President, while maligning McCain for having done nothing to help veterans. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-mccain-lie_n_5d0bf70ce4b0aa375f49d27c
“For him the truth is no better than a lie, and if it doesn’t serve his ego when a lie will, then the lie is preferable to the truth,” Salter said. “That’s his only value: Does it serve his ego or not.”
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
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“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
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canpakes wrote:There you go again. Playing the fool, or the liar. Obama didn’t ban incandescent light bulbs, considering that you can still buy them at the store. and considering that the legislation you’re attempting to link him to as the cause “was passed by Congress and signed by President George W. Bush in 2007”.
https://www.epa.gov/cfl/how-energy-inde ... ight-bulbs
Congratulations on publicly tossing yourself on the broiler yet again in your quest to make yourself look as untruthful or stupid as possible, because your handlers told you to do as you’re told. Geez. : )
Yeah, you're soooo right, what was i thinking? do not click this lest i be so embarassed
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I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them
what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams
If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
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subgenius wrote:canpakes wrote:There you go again. Playing the fool, or the liar. Obama didn’t ban incandescent light bulbs, considering that you can still buy them at the store. and considering that the legislation you’re attempting to link him to as the cause “was passed by Congress and signed by President George W. Bush in 2007”.
https://www.epa.gov/cfl/how-energy-inde ... ight-bulbs
Congratulations on publicly tossing yourself on the broiler yet again in your quest to make yourself look as untruthful or stupid as possible, because your handlers told you to do as you’re told. Geez. : )
Yeah, you're soooo right, what was i thinking? do not click this lest i be so embarassed
Lol. Not only are you a liar, but you’re a liar that can’t read.
Pretty much the first words from your link:
“Way back in October 2007, candidate Barack Obama pledged to "immediately sign a law that begins to phase out all incandescent light bulbs." About two months later, President George W. Bush signed a bill to do that -- the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007.”
Does that differ from what I said? No.
Does it prove that you lied about Obama banning light bulbs? Yes.
Sorry, subs. Even your own source contradicts you. Try not to go all in on making yourself look like a moron.
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https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/daught ... my-father/
It seems the daughter of segregationist George Wallace thinks Trump is worse than her father. I remember a picture of Wallace standing in front of a school door to stop a black student from enrolling.
Didn't Trump stop blacks moving in some housing he owned? Trump violated the fair housing act . He refused to rent to black tenants
It seems the daughter of segregationist George Wallace thinks Trump is worse than her father. I remember a picture of Wallace standing in front of a school door to stop a black student from enrolling.
Didn't Trump stop blacks moving in some housing he owned? Trump violated the fair housing act . He refused to rent to black tenants
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/01/opin ... 2zrdYhXiAA
One might ask are you really going to suffer under 8 years of Trump. If Trump brings jobs back to the US are those workers going to have to take a pay cut to equal the wages of those who produced in Asia? If more cars are built in the US will the buyers be able to secure a car loan on those reduced wages?
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/us-b ... &r=US&IR=T
What is the solution to this? Cut social security and food stamps? Small business which provide the food etc to these folks will suffer.
https://markets.businessinsider.com/new ... jwfwaqm9qi
It seems the farmers are now complaining about lost markets forever to Russia (wheat) and Brazil (pork). Has Trump and his Commerce Secretary really thought this through?
One might ask are you really going to suffer under 8 years of Trump. If Trump brings jobs back to the US are those workers going to have to take a pay cut to equal the wages of those who produced in Asia? If more cars are built in the US will the buyers be able to secure a car loan on those reduced wages?
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/us-b ... &r=US&IR=T
What is the solution to this? Cut social security and food stamps? Small business which provide the food etc to these folks will suffer.
https://markets.businessinsider.com/new ... jwfwaqm9qi
It seems the farmers are now complaining about lost markets forever to Russia (wheat) and Brazil (pork). Has Trump and his Commerce Secretary really thought this through?
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The incredible stupidity of Trump doubling down on the claim that China, and not American citizens and consumers and farmers and small businesses, will somehow pay the tariffs he is imposing, is mind boggling!
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
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subgenius wrote:canpakes wrote:There you go again. Playing the fool, or the liar. Obama didn’t ban incandescent light bulbs, considering that you can still buy them at the store. and considering that the legislation you’re attempting to link him to as the cause “was passed by Congress and signed by President George W. Bush in 2007”.
https://www.epa.gov/cfl/how-energy-inde ... ight-bulbs
Congratulations on publicly tossing yourself on the broiler yet again in your quest to make yourself look as untruthful or stupid as possible, because your handlers told you to do as you’re told. Geez. : )
Yeah, you're soooo right, what was i thinking? do not click this lest i be so embarassed
So what is wrong with encouraging switching to LED light bulbs? You act as if there were something sinister and evil about encouraging their use! Given the fact that they use so much less energy, last so much longer and pay for themselves many times over with the energy saved, one would have to be an idiot to not switch to them, whether they are mandated or not! And this is true whether or not climate change is a hoax! Refusing to switch to them because the government encourages or incentivizes their use is as stupid as insisting on repeatedly hitting yourself on the head with a hammer just because someone you don't like told you not to!
Why is this even an issue with you?



No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
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Gunnar wrote:The incredible stupidity of Trump doubling down on the claim that China, and not American citizens and consumers and farmers and small businesses, will somehow pay the tariffs he is imposing, is mind boggling!
"You interviewed the wrong Farmers." Then he goes on to say Chins is putting "billions and billions" into our economy thanks to his tariffs.
Neil Cavuto basically says Trump makes no sense. If Obama had said this he'd be far less charitable in his critique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... M7QLLxJZOQ