8 Years of suffering under Obama.

[_ajax18]

Are we in for a recession or even worse a depression? How far can interest rates go down?

Interest rates can down until enough people realize it's futile to try to save money. Lower interest rates punish savers and reward debtors. Based on the behavior of the American consumer which is mainly controlled by women because women have the most purchasing power and authority by law, interest rates have been way too low for a long time now already.

[_canpakes]

I laughed for about five minutes when I heard a liberal news outlet actually admitting China had no means to fight back in the trade war because they don't purchase any of our goods anyway. It just proves what Trump has been saying all along. What we have now with China is not free trade and it's certainly not fair trade.

ajax, this makes as much sense as stating that you run an unfair enterprise because you sell a service to people who aren’t selling anything back to you.

You do understand why we have Chinese goods on these shores, correct? Look around you and your neighborhood and you’ll have your answer.

[_honorentheos]

The quarter before the tariffs were imposed, we sold so many soy beans to China that one single commodity had a noticable effect on GDP. We absolutely sell things to China. BUT and this really matters, we don't have a monopoly on those things so they have been changing supply chains to deal with it. If the trade war ended tomorrow, we wouldn't suddenly start selling to them again.

[_aussieguy55]

So much winning under Trump.

[_ajax18]

The quarter before the tariffs were imposed, we sold so many soy beans to China that one single commodity had a noticable effect on GDP. We absolutely sell things to China. BUT and this really matters, we don't have a monopoly on those things so they have been changing supply chains to deal with it. If the trade war ended tomorrow, we wouldn't suddenly start selling to them again.

Well what did they mean on the news when I overheard this in between patients that China couldn't retaliate? They could just put a tariff on soy beans and rice, correct?

When do you go to Japan and see someone driving a Chevrolet? To me that is something that really matters as well. Trump has demonstrated enough loyalty to me with his commitment to economic nationalism that I would go to war or even bankrupt for him. That's what being a part of the tribe or even a nation is about to me. The simple fact that Trump wants what is in the best interests of legal American citizens of the USA puts him light years ahead of the Democratic party and their commitment to the citizens of the world. This is true whether Trump wins or not.

[_canpakes]

Trump has demonstrated enough loyalty to me with his commitment to economic nationalism that I would go to war or even bankrupt for him.

No, I don’t think that you will.

If you want to try, then put your money where your mouth is, and commit to use only 100% USA made materials and merchandise for both your personal and business use. Toss your Chinese made crap out now. Use only glasses components and optometry supplies that are ‘Made in America’.

And while you’re at it, purchase only foodstuffs that are manufactured or harvested by full US citizens.

But, that’s not going to happen, because you have as much commitment to your stated ideals here as any other paper nationalist.

Think about that on your next trip to Dollar General or WalMart. This is the world you gleefully constructed, and now it chafes you and that sense of pride that you sold out to multinationals decades ago.

[_honorentheos]

The quarter before the tariffs were imposed, we sold so many soy beans to China that one single commodity had a noticable effect on GDP. We absolutely sell things to China. BUT and this really matters, we don't have a monopoly on those things so they have been changing supply chains to deal with it. If the trade war ended tomorrow, we wouldn't suddenly start selling to them again.

Well what did they mean on the news when I overheard this in between patients that China couldn't retaliate? They could just put a tariff on soy beans and rice, correct?

When do you go to Japan and see someone driving a Chevrolet? To me that is something that really matters as well. Trump has demonstrated enough loyalty to me with his commitment to economic nationalism that I would go to war or even bankrupt for him. That's what being a part of the tribe or even a nation is about to me. The simple fact that Trump wants what is in the best interests of legal American citizens of the USA puts him light years ahead of the Democratic party and their commitment to the citizens of the world. This is true whether Trump wins or not.

I'm not sure what you heard. If I had to guess it's that you misunderstood. The current round of tariffs just levied by Trump might be difficult for China to retaliate given they have tariffs on most of the goods they import and can find alternative sources for so the ones left would likely hurt them too of they impose tariffs.

[_Gunnar]

Trump wants what is in the best interests of legal American citizens of the USA puts him light years ahead of the Democratic party and their commitment to the citizens of the world. This is true whether Trump wins or not.

The truth of the matter is that Trump wants what is in the best interests of only White Americans. The fact that you obviously approve of that attitude deeply underscores your horrible bigotry. Like Trump, you reject and abhor the concept and even the possibility of win/win situations. It is not enough for you that you win or prosper, those who are not like you or who disagree with you must fail ignominiously and suffer. Your admission that you would rather go bankrupt yourself than give those you disagree with an even break is as uncharitable and un-Christ like as anything I can possibly imagine! What happened in your life to make you so hateful and contemptuous of others whom you deem unlike yourself in any way?

[_ajax18]

The truth of the matter is that Trump wants what is in the best interests of only White Americans.

That's a leftist spin. False accusations of racism is all you have to counter economic nationalism. This is the argument that put Trump in office and it's in the best interests of every legal working American of all races and probably a lot of actually disabled legal American citizens as well.

[_EAllusion]

Trump wants what’s in Trump’s best interest. The idea that he is working on behalf of whites is the fundamental grift to provide cover for severe corruption. That’s why it is crucial to not confuse his racist acts with being a an advocate on behalf of whites. He’s picking Ajax’s pocket, who is happy to allow it so long as Trump punishes brown people.