Chicago mass shooting

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Chap wrote:
subgenius wrote: ... emotion, and not data, is the driving force on the issue at hand.

Well, like what else should be the driving force behind public concern with the appalling spectacle of Americans (children as well as adults) being massacred by hate-filled guys with assault weapons in schools, supermarkets and elsewhere?

If that does not make you have emotions, goodness knows what will. Then, stirred by those emotions, you think 'What collective action could be taken to reduce the likelihood of such horrifying spectacles being repeated? Because we should not be in a state of a society in which reasonable people have to feel this kind of horror and fear.' Then you start to think about possible means of harm reduction.

What's subgenius' best suggestion for harm reduction in this area, I wonder? Nothing so vulgar as making it more difficult for civilians to acquire weapons designed for rapid battlefield killing, I'll be bound!

um, didn't say that having emotions was a bad thing...but using them to drive policy and to form a solution on this matter seems rather curious.
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subgenius wrote:um, didn't say that having emotions was a bad thing...but using them to drive policy and to form a solution on this matter seems rather curious.

Perhaps someone should inform the current President of this recommendation, at one of his next rallies.
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canpakes wrote:
subgenius wrote:um, didn't say that having emotions was a bad thing...but using them to drive policy and to form a solution on this matter seems rather curious.

Perhaps someone should inform the current President of this recommendation, at one of his next rallies.

Perhaps, but you guys owning your own shortcomings on this thread's discussion is likely a better point of departure.
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subgenius wrote:Perhaps, but you guys owning your own shortcomings on this thread's discussion is likely a better point of departure.


Neat. Please link the source of your graph. Also, please provide a direct link to the underlying studies or data the graph purports to present.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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subgenius wrote:um, didn't say that having emotions was a bad thing...but using them to drive policy and to form a solution on this matter seems rather curious.

What about emotional appeals used to sell guns? I mean, aren't they needed to repel hordes of welfare seeking immigrants, roaming Amway sales representatives, and irritating fellow employees at the Post Office?
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subgenius wrote:Perhaps, but you guys owning your own shortcomings on this thread's discussion is likely a better point of departure.

Feel free to identify the supposed shortcomings.
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moksha wrote:
subgenius wrote:um, didn't say that having emotions was a bad thing...but using them to drive policy and to form a solution on this matter seems rather curious.

What about emotional appeals used to sell guns? I mean, aren't they needed to repel hordes of welfare seeking immigrants, roaming Amway sales representatives, and irritating fellow employees at the Post Office?

Just what are you talking about? ; )

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subgenius wrote:It supports the recently criticized position of a public personality that emotion, and not data, is the driving force on the issue at hand. This graphic also illustrates how fleeting the concern actually is.


Go back and look at your graph again. You can't or won't explain where the numbers come from nor how they fit into the discussion. You don't even have a link. Are you serious?
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Goya wrote:
subgenius wrote:It supports the recently criticized position of a public personality that emotion, and not data, is the driving force on the issue at hand. This graphic also illustrates how fleeting the concern actually is.


Go back and look at your graph again. You can't or won't explain where the numbers come from nor how they fit into the discussion. You don't even have a source. Are you serious?

serious?

yes, i am serious as you guys are with your logic that where you emphatically believe:

1. White supremacy is on a catastrophic rise
2. Minorities are targeted by a corrupt police force
3. The US runs concentration camps
4. elected religious zealots want to usurp civil and human rights
5. Trump is literally a nazi.
6. That citizens having less and more restricted access to guns is the best response to items 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 above.
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subgenius wrote:It supports the recently criticized position of a public personality that emotion, and not data, is the driving force on the issue at hand. This graphic also illustrates how fleeting the concern actually is.

Goya wrote:Go back and look at your graph again. You can't or won't explain where the numbers come from nor how they fit into the discussion. You don't even have a source. Are you serious?

subgenius wrote:serious?

yes, i am serious as you guys are with your logic that where you emphatically believe:

1. White supremacy is on a catastrophic rise
2. Minorities are targeted by a corrupt police force
3. The US runs concentration camps
4. elected religious zealots want to usurp civil and human rights
5. Trump is literally a nazi.
6. That citizens having less and more restricted access to guns is the best response to items 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 above.

So does that mean you'll explain and source your graph?
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