Final Exit

[_SteelHead]

Rock,

If this means (by reading between the lines) that your battle with cancer is not going well - then I am sad.

Be well friend.

[_Jersey Girl]

Rock,

If this means (by reading between the lines) that your battle with cancer is not going well - then I am sad.

Be well friend.

If he's going in that direction, I hope he will tell us.

[_subgenius]

So, if we assume suicide is always to be an self-autonomous decision and act then how do we as a society consider the burden for the disposal of remains?

Very strange reason that does not seem well thought out. ....

notwithstanding that this reason is a more practical investigation of the consequences for an dramatic increase in suicides, i continued with a clearly stated "but more importantly " inquiry that actually applies to the "thought out" part. What i believe is less thought is how limited your scope of "suicide" is...as if the wholesale decriminalization of suicide only applies to terminally ill persons with the means to employ the ceremony of an "assistant" and a family gathered. At which case you are in fact only allowing for a very narrow and limited amount of people who may "choose" your oh-so-noble notion for the ceremony of it all. But yeah, think it out, instead of just feeling it out as you are currently doing.

[_RockSlider]

Rock,

If this means (by reading between the lines) that your battle with cancer is not going well - then I am sad.

Be well friend.

The cancer treatments and four major abdominal surgeries left me impotent, wearing an ostomy bag, dealing with a severe case of neuropathy, phantom smells and short term memory loss. It brain damaged me. It left me almost a different person than when I started. However, I have lived with all that for seven years now, and no it has not returned. I'm 62 and still working full time. Hell that would have been too easy.

But hey, I'm pretty sure I signed up for the full experience, don't cheat me out of any part of this life's experiences.

About six months back I was diagnosed with "Parkinsons Like Disease" after starting to have violent shaking in my right arm when I would awake from sleep, and was having a hard time doing hand writing and controlling my computer mouse. They called it Parkinsons like, mostly because the drug commonly used for Parkinson just about removed all symptoms but at a maximum dosage (Levodopa). Anyway, about a month back the shaking has gradually returned and is getting much worse. I'm a Principle Software Engineer and over the last six months my cognitive is notably failing. I fear the diagnoses might be moving to motor neurone disease.

I started with a local Parkinsons support group held at a local "senior living community" and saw the full spectrum of beginning stages to final stages. I realized right then that I can point at the stage along that spectrum that it will be time for me to opt out.

[_RockSlider]

subgenius,

A lot of the video on the web comes from England where the citizenry is going to a company in Switzerland for assisted suicide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignitas_ ... ganisation)

This Dignitas is scary for what I assume are some of your concerns. Some of the stories I followed about them did indicate people were using it for suicide, or were opting out way too early along the spectrum that I'm starting to see.

Then again, there is a subset there that your "oh-so-noble" comment is just so damned out of touch that I'm shocked by it.

My maternal grandmother died in my arms in a rest home. I had night watch, it was her and me. My uncle died in his home with all of his children, grandchildren and me at his bedside when he went. These are sacred and moving experiences. I want to die in my home. I want my children there, partly for me, but every bit as much for them, that they might hold the memory like I hold it for my grandmother and uncle.

I suppose you have never had the oh-so-noble experience of being with a loved one as they die.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Rock,

You have my deepest sympathies for what you're having to go through.

You have my deepest respect for the warrior you are to fight through it.

- Doc

[_RockSlider]

Rock,

You have my deepest sympathies for what you're having to go through.

You have my deepest respect for the warrior you are to fight through it.

- Doc

That means a lot to me coming from you Doc.

[_canpakes]

So, if we assume suicide is always to be an self-autonomous decision and act then how do we as a society consider the burden for the disposal of remains?

Your emphasis and worry over the possibility of suffering some sort of out-of-pocket cost if someone - family member or otherwise - commits suicide is noted, but doesn’t the need for ‘disposal’ exist regardless of suicide or not?

Perhaps you have set up a plan to drop in place within a garden when your own time comes to an end, so that you can merely compost right in to the veggies, removing the burden of disposal for your family?

[_moksha]

Death with dignity, on your terms, is the ultimate choice that a man can make.
- Doc

Well said. Hope the medical community can someday help add to that dignity without legal interference.

[_Jersey Girl]

Rock how can we help you?