Pahoran wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:Are you saying we're all liars? Is that what you're saying?
Every last one of you. Without a single exception.
A few months back, your buddy Ms Jack showed up to explain why none of you minded when Dan exposed the long-running lies of the Execrable Wang Chung. (Oh, you minded, all right. This place fairly exploded with rage.) You couldn't have minded, she condescendingly declared, because you were
all in on it. None of you really believed him for a minute when he claimed to be a serving bishop, but you saw it as mere "trolling," so you just "played along."
You see, like all the worst bigots, you regard the targets of your bigotry as less than fully human. Therefore, lying to a "Mormon" doesn't really count as lying, does it?
I don't know whether you, Jersey Girl, would tell a lie on your own initiative or not. I do know that if one of your club tells a lie - or a whole tissue of them - you will all close ranks to support the lie, and the liar.
That's the nature of this place.
And you get to wear the stench of it.
Sorry.
You know who I am, friend. You know that I think for myself and you know that I think and act independently. You know that I say what I mean when I say it.
By now you should know that I don't care a hoot about this BS that you involve yourself in. I have seen you on attack (Smart off at me and I smart off back at you, you know the drill. We
wrote the drill over the course of many several years.) and I have also seen the better parts of you that no one here has seen. I've never stated otherwise here.
Do not speak to me as if I am
the group when
you know very well that I am not. I'm the person that you know.
I don't give two craps about whatever Ms. Jack said about Everybody Wang Chung or what anyone here thinks about it, not even you. So far as I am concerned it's all a running feud that has little to nothing to do with me.
So let me tell you something and I've told this before here. One night I was online when an email came through around midnight as I recall. It was a message from DCP telling me I was wrong about him or had misjudged him due to something I had written.
I never once shared my email address with him. My best guess is that he lifted my email from another email because someone else took it upon themselves to include me in an emailing to group recipients about someone who shall not be named here. They were acting in threatening ways towards DCP. That incident set off a series of threatening online behaviors on the part of the person in question.
He didn't have a reason to use my email address. I never gave it to him. I never invited him. And yet, he used it.
I want nothing to do with him privately and he should know that by now. Over the years, I have seen what he does and I simply disagree with it. I don't like it. I don't find it at all praiseworthy. I don't find it remotely honorable.
You are reading here the words of someone who went the extra mile when I voluntarily inserted myself into a situation that had potential legal consequences for him and another poster. I did so because I saw serious in real life trouble brewing and I knew how to do something to stop it from continuing publicly. Call it a skill if you will. And I did it. And, if you need more details on that, I'll post it right here on the board and show you evidence of it.
I don't choose sides except that which I think is true and right. I don't care who is involved be it LDS, ex-LDS, believer, atheist, whether they are my best bud or my adversary.
And I totally horse around here for fun as well because what good is a board without a laugh track?
I have no reason to maintain anything for anyone here except for my own integrity for myself in the best ways that I know how.
You guys put yourselves out there just like everyone here does. If you don't expect criticism or push back, then you're incredibly naïve' in that regard. And, you are not naïve'.
If it weren't for the "antis" you guys wouldn't exist. If it weren't for you guys, the "antis" wouldn't exist. You are each part and parcel of each other's presence online and your reasons for being here so don't give me this cesspool line of crap.
You're the only one who showed up here because you don't mind wading through crap to speak your truth. Wake up man. I'm here for the same reason.
The cesspool is created by the slight of hand and vitriol that both sides engage in from time to time, and the lines that each side has drawn. Both sides have their biases. They have their biases on account of their life experiences and what people have come to believe to be true.
You aren't the target of my bigotry. It's only when I see the face of sheer hypocrisy raise it's ugly head that I typically ever comment. If you call that bigotry, then guilty as charged. I call it discernment and speaking my truth as I see fit. And I don't "close ranks" with anyone.
I stand on my own and do my best to deliver truth as I see it. You already know that so knock off the groupthink BS you're trying to pedal off on me as if you are defining who I am. You are not.
I have approx. 20+ years of history on these LDS related boards. You share a part of it and I share a part of yours. I don't warm to this speaking indirectly to people from board to board. It's juvenile. I much prefer to address you directly and I appreciate that, for whatever reason, you've opened yourself to that possibility.
Stay here and participate, or go. Do what you want only don't mischaracterize me and weave me into your strawman. You couldn't set fire to me if your life depended on it. I'd like to see you stay. This board needs a good kick in the ass from time to time and this dog likes to get hold of a good bone now and then. ;-)
I hope you and yours are well. Get with me in PM's to share updates if you feel like it. And, if you choose to stay, you won't have to worry about upvotes. We don't do such as that here.
That's kids stuff.
:-)
p.s I loved the hell out of moderating you on Geeks!
Why?