"2 Inks" Gee criticises scholarly standards of JSP Project

[_Shulem]

I love my hand. I'll kick John Gee's sorry ass.

[_Shulem]

Not to mention that the "human sacrifices" Lindsay and Muhlestein are talking about have nothing to do with the Egyptians killing someone because of their religious beliefs, nor is the scene Facsimile#1 anything other than a typical reanimation scene.

It's all smoke and mirrors on the part of church apologists. They look for any and every parallel or comparison in effort to try and say, "See, look, Joseph Smith was really on to something", but in reality they've done nothing to vindicate what Smith was claiming.

Frankly they could come up with an ancient text actually showing Abraham being sacrificed for his religious beliefs by the Egyptians and it would not change what the papyri Joseph Smith owned one bit. It's still just ordinary funerary documents that have nothing to do with Abraham.

I've never thought of that before. That's an excellent point and you are correct.

[_Shulem]

Straight across one to one correlation? No.

Oh I see, you're calling Joseph Smith a liar! He pointed at hieroglyphs on the papyrus in front of witnesses and claimed they were the very autograph of Abraham, himself. Are you calling Joseph Smith a liar, again?

I'm telling Smith on you and then watch your ass get excommunicated. I want you thrown right out of Zion. I want no such men in it! I'm going to rejoice and laugh at your excommunication. When Smith is done with you you won't be able to show your face around here again.

[Guest]

Hauglid came across as one sided and definitive in his presentation as though he had already made up his mind and had become a disciple of Vogel at that point.

ATTENTION: A MAROON'S CLASSIC DERAIL ^^^^^

This is such laughable BS. Man oh man. I'm literally laughing my ass off.

Mental Midget claiming Vogel has disciples! Oh yes, Brian has now been enslaved to Dan's will and has joined the cult of the Ur-Vogel! Poor, poor Brian, not even the Midget could save him!

What a Cad... what a Maroon!

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The above cut is a representation of the Maroon, who makes his appearance from time to time to try and disrupt intelligent people from having enlightening conversations. While the other character, the Bugs, is always there to call out the Maroon, until he tucks his tail between his legs and slinks off under the fence back to his junkyard home. But like with all other vermin, he somehow manages to escape and come back from time to time.

[Guest]

A while back/yesteryear/in olden times I watched/dreamed? and drooled (It's a condition - don't judge) over a presentation/address/animated lecture by Brother Lindsay in Salt Lake/Zion. Brother Lindsay came across as one who was divinely inspired in his presentation as though God/Corporate Man had shoved/pushed/thrust his Spirit (well, I have it on authority that he went willingly) up into his tukus/backside and he spoke words (a bit gassy but classy) that seared my body below the waist! It's like I was burnt in the bottom (you know, my very own TUKUS) and I knew that Brother Lindsay was the chosen one! (Boogie)

It's interesting how the iron rod of Mopology makes me so churlishly submissive to God's Corporation! And how Jeffy (he said I could call him that) is so smarmy and smart! He is the chosen Mopologist and I, I am but a pale/whitey (as God is we now are) shadow/shade/silhouette (but I do my part). (In)

Though I am so not worthy, it would be so difficult/hard to turn around and remember/recall and/or recognize/identify what was/is outside/beyond this perfect/faultless bubble/gas-filled spherical cavity of bliss/happiness/rapture/ecstasy/paradise! Oh, I'm shivering now... I'm shivering... (Yo Butt!)



Regards,
MM

P.S. It's so dark in here, where the Spirit once was/is?. (Like a fire was burning?) Good thing I brought my M-Phone and could text y'all from the Tukus! Jeffy is so gracious to allow me up in here even if it is a bit cramped. He truly is the Chosen Mopologist of the Corporation!

[Guest]

A revised version of Dr. Gee's review has been posted with this note: "This review was edited by the author, after initial publication, to address multiple requests for clarification. In part, these clarifications came after a substantive conversation between the author and principal figures in the Joseph Smith Papers Project."

All the comments on the previous version have gone missing.

The gist of the walkback by Gee seems to be a lowering of the petulance and a change in language to correct his lack of understanding about what type of text project the JSP volume is. Considering he was one of the people the JSP team sent it to for review and comment prior to publication this lack of comprehension is staggering.

So I’m left with some questions:
Who was on peer review duty at Interpreter for this article? Didn’t it have to be a qualified Egyptologist by the terms Gee seems to wish upon his interactions? Because whoever was on the Interpreters peer review process for this article also didn’t comprehend the difference between a critical text project and a documentary editorial one.

Who forced the walk back and rewriting of the article? Did Gee finally develop some self awareness? Unlikely. Did the board of Interpreter try and head off at the pass another embarrassment before it reached the level of the Dales debacle? Did the JSP team leverage authority over Gee? Did Gee stand to lose his chair on the back of it if he didn’t tone it down?

Where does this “strike two” leave Alan Wyatt’s position as head of peer review at Interpreter?

And finally (I’m sure there are more questions...) is Interpreter becoming a hit-piece vehicle for Mopologists and their cronies to take indirect swipes at certain members of The Brethren?

[_grindael]

... is Interpreter becoming a hit-piece vehicle for Mopologists and their cronies to take indirect swipes at certain members of The Brethren?

It appears so.

[_Philo Sofee]

They won't be able but to help making swipes at the brethren and fellow Mormons because well......apologists are right in their interpretations, and all others need to come into line with their truth, otherwise there is going to be words, there IS going to be words. We can be nice for only so long brethren and then we simply must have conformity of knowledge, or else, well, you know, there is going to be trouble. Don't make us go get Nelson to get you in line!

[_Lemmie]

A revised version of Dr. Gee's review has been posted with this note: "This review was edited by the author, after initial publication, to address multiple requests for clarification. In part, these clarifications came after a substantive conversation between the author and principal figures in the Joseph Smith Papers Project."

All the comments on the previous version have gone missing.

The gist of the walkback by Gee seems to be a lowering of the petulance and a change in language to correct his lack of understanding about what type of text project the JSP volume is. Considering he was one of the people the JSP team sent it to for review and comment prior to publication this lack of comprehension is staggering.

So I’m left with some questions:
Who was on peer review duty at Interpreter for this article? Didn’t it have to be a qualified Egyptologist by the terms Gee seems to wish upon his interactions? Because whoever was on the Interpreters peer review process for this article also didn’t comprehend the difference between a critical text project and a documentary editorial one.

Who forced the walk back and rewriting of the article? Did Gee finally develop some self awareness? Unlikely. Did the board of Interpreter try and head off at the pass another embarrassment before it reached the level of the Dales debacle? Did the JSP team leverage authority over Gee? Did Gee stand to lose his chair on the back of it if he didn’t tone it down?

Where does this “strike two” leave Alan Wyatt’s position as head of peer review at Interpreter?

And finally (I’m sure there are more questions...) is Interpreter becoming a hit-piece vehicle for Mopologists and their cronies to take indirect swipes at certain members of The Brethren?

I thought it interesting that this occurred roughly when, according to Scratch, DCP was also walking back some things:

Doctor Scratch, 8/28/29:

And notice that Dan Peterson seems to have pretty much checked out lately (his daily posting rate of 10+ items per day has dropped to almost zero), and, oddly, he's posting on "The Importance of Christian Unity" and linking to an article penned by Jana Reiss. Either he has begun to recognize that his own team is spiraling out of control, or he was warned to tone it down by one of the Brethren.

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[_Philo Sofee]

I hope he hasn't been told to ramp it down on Sic et Non. It is soooooo entertaining to see the egos of Peterson and Midgley fly uncontrolled. I think Sic et Non is just trying to figure out which the winning team is by sifting through the information and then making sure they come down on the right side. Of course, their side is the right side no matter who else says what, we all already know that..... Heh, as internet Mormons, perhaps they are just waiting for another apostle to kick the bucket so they can move forward with their agenda. chapel Mormons certainly won't think this way, they love all the apostles no matter what.