Discuss this article re: President mental health exam

[_Jersey Girl]

ETA: There's also something recent (rally?) where he slurs the word "choice" and seems to struggle for other words. That could easily be due to fatigue though. Whatever speech I saw and am referring to are much like the time he slurred United States of America, I believe it was. If you observe him like I do, you'll know what I'm talking about. It will put you in mind of apraxia of speech.

Verbal covfefe.

He's been slurring more frequently. There's several examples of it. Slurring speech, broken syntax, struggles with phonetics, word-finding difficulties, losing the topic of a sentence while speaking it - these are the hallmarks of Alzheimer's speech problems.

Yes, I agree with you completely on this. It's very pronounced. I also see Biden struggling at times, mainly with word retrieval--hesitation, stammering. Have you noticed that? I've never been a Biden watcher until the debates began so he might have done this previously without my knowing it.

[_EAllusion]

I've never been a Biden watcher until the debates began so he might have done this previously without my knowing it.

Biden is stammering a lot more than I remember. The "gaffe" stuff with dubious, misremembered stories is who he has been since forever. The extent of his fumbling seems newish to me. I'm not confident of that, though.

[_aussieguy55]

"Together, we will express the corruption, we will defeat the socialists, we will defraud...we will stop defrauding all of the people in our country, because they've defrauded the people in our country," President Trump says at Young Black Leadership Summit.

[_Jersey Girl]

If Trump displays narcissistic behavior and is delusional behavior is that a problem? These folks seem to think so The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump 27 psychiatrists and mental health experts assess a President.

We've discussed his having NPD extensively here in the Paradise Forum. He displays too many characteristics not to notice it. I wouldn't exactly describe it as delusional behavior, though EA might. In my view, what you see someone with NPD doing is imitating what he thinks "real" is because he cannot discern the perspectives of others. This is why you see that narcs lack empathy. Empathy needs to develop in early childhood and in narcs, that process was thwarted by caregivers who failed to tend to the child's emotions so the child learns what behavior results in attention from the parent because attention is what the developing child learns to seek as it's the closest thing the child can get to an emotional love response from the adult. The child becomes who the adults wants them to be on the outside. That becomes the mask the narc wears. It's not a real fully developed functioning human being you're seeing.

It's a representation, an imitation.

He imitates what he sees on the outside of others because he can't relate to their inner workings. Trump behaves in ways that gives him positive attention and adoration from his base. That much he knows how to do. Talk tough? Go Trump! Say what people want to hear? Go Trump! Say stupid crap in front of an astronaut or Native American? No one says anything because he's the President. No one wants to cross him because they're enmeshed in incestuous political relationships with him on which their financial interests, power, and status depends.

That's why the GOP as a whole remains silent right now. That's why they denied reading the whistleblower complaint. They're dodging the obvious because right now their survival depends on it. They're like the narc child responding to the narc parent. Go Trump!

Me, I'm hoping the damn breaks regarding GOP criticism. But I won't hold my breath waiting for it to happen.

[_Jersey Girl]

I've never been a Biden watcher until the debates began so he might have done this previously without my knowing it.

Biden is stammering a lot more than I remember. The "gaffe" stuff with dubious, misremembered stories is who he has been since forever. The extent of his fumbling seems newish to me. I'm not confident of that, though.

Now I have read about his gaffe history but I am not at all familiar with it. During the last debate, I believe it was, when he was fumbling with his teeth (maybe new teeth, who am I to judge--I don't know what that might be like) he was tripping all over himself. I've noticed it multiple times--not the teeth, the stammering. Past couple of weeks I've noticed it repeatedly when he's being questioned by the press...and it's left me to think that he might not be my best first choice candidate on account of it unless he and Warren can find common ground enough to put up a joint ticket in which case, I'd totally buy into it. At least today.

I notice it most often when he's trying to shoot from the hip and fast. His mind can't keep up and the words won't come. He's apparently mixing/blending stories and folks are cutting him slack for it.

One of our problems with the Democrat candidates is that the top tier 3 candidates, all polling nicely (maybe not Bernie at the moment due to his recent MI), is that they are very old. Bernie, for example, would be sworn in at age 80. As much as I appreciate his public service records and his energy, I just can't support that.

I think I'm in favor of upper age limits on candidates now. And it bothers me a lot to say that, but I do think it needs to be done.

That doesn't mean that I think seniors aren't competent. I just think that the job is too important (24/7--the mother of all stressors) and needs to be an over 35 and under 70 person's gig.

[_Jersey Girl]

I just want to mention this as an obvious sign of aging though not as advanced as the politicians we're discussing. If anyone pays attention to my posts, I can't recall which words are compound words these days and it drives me crazy.

bat crap
bat-shit
crazy

Like that. I often find myself having to search up the words before I post them or I fake it. So there you go, but I am not responsible for running the most powerful nation on the planet.

We really can't have this going on. There needs to be upper age limits. And Trump needs to get out of my house.

[_moksha]

That doesn't mean that I think seniors aren't competent. I just think that the job is too important (24/7--the mother of all stressors) and needs to be an over 35 and under 70 person's gig.

That brings us back to Pete Buttigieg.

[_Jersey Girl]

That doesn't mean that I think seniors aren't competent. I just think that the job is too important (24/7--the mother of all stressors) and needs to be an over 35 and under 70 person's gig.

That brings us back to Pete Buttigieg.

Why? How? I'm afraid that I don't understand that comment.

[_moksha]

That brings us back to Pete Buttigieg.

Why? How? I'm afraid that I don't understand that comment.

As you said, the person needs to be healthy and competent. Pete Buttigieg tops both of those categories in terms of people campaigning to be President.

[_Jersey Girl]

As you said, the person needs to be healthy and competent. Pete Buttigieg tops both of those categories in terms of people campaigning to be President.

OIC