Trump whistleblower complaint

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MeDotOrg wrote:There is now a SECOND whistleblower, with FIRSTHAND knowledge of the June 25th Zelensky phone call. From Fox News:

A second whistleblower claiming to have information regarding President Trump’s phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has come forward, and has already spoken to the intelligence community’s inspector general.


I would imagine that right now in the White House Cafeteria, there is a sign-up sheet if you need a lawyer.


Mitch McConnell has a campaign ad out boasting that he will stop impeachment:

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/n ... 879571002/

Whatever staffer wrote that probably should tone it down a notch to keep up appearances at least a little.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGNHIB7WsAAYmAx.jpg

Looks like Adam Schiff is framing Trump again.
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EAllusion wrote:
Mitch McConnell has a campaign ad out boasting that he will stop impeachment:

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/n ... 879571002/

Whatever staffer wrote that probably should tone it down a notch to keep up appearances at least a little.


Moscow Mitch and the vast majority of Republicans in congress are representing their constituents who are primarily made up of ajax/subgenius types. They can't abandon Trump and hope to win re-election. The only way to escape Trump's power over them is to quit, like Paul Ryan. Their political futures are tied to Trump. If he goes down, they all go down with him. They are desparate. Imagine what a nightmare it would be if your career, that you spent a lifetime building, depends on Donald Trump being on the right side of history.
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EAllusion wrote:Trump's defense yesterday that, essentially, "I didn't do it, but Rick Perry made me do it" was hilarious. Again, this admin is like the Godfather, but everyone is Fredo.


Coincidently, Rick Perry is expected to resign in November.

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DarkHelmet wrote:
Moscow Mitch and the vast majority of Republicans in congress are representing their constituents who are primarily made up of ajax/subgenius types.


No, they are primarily made up of ajax/subgenius types. It's a distinction I think too many people still don't get. The inmates are running the asylum.

This is why it is vital to make the impeachment inquiry about communication of as much information as possible to the public. Once the Senate trial is ready to be rigged, that's probably when it makes sense to flood the streets with protesters.

There's still gonna be attempts to rig the 2020 election as much as they think they can get away with, but you do what you can do with the tools at your disposal. Public focus should provide some deterrent.
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EAllusion wrote:Trump defenders are trying so many mutually self-contradictory defenses at such a rapid pace that it's difficult to keep track of them unto themselves. In this case, the conspiracy theory is that Schiff has a plant in the Trump administration that allowed him to shadow write a whistleblower complaint to frame Donald Trump with lies.

Why stop there? Perhaps Democratic Deep State operatives kidnapped the real Donald Trump back in 2014, and replaced him with an agent that would run for the nomination and eventually prompt the majority of the Republican Party to act like sycophantic, moronic quislings.

The plan seems to be progressing with remarkable success.
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Well well well...

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/10/05/tru ... ation.html

Tl;dr - CrowdStrike conspiracy theory originated...... Yep. You guessed it. damned 4chan, March 2017.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Well well well...

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/10/05/tru ... ation.html

Tl;dr - CrowdStrike conspiracy theory originated...... Yep. You guessed it. ____ 4chan, March 2017.

- Doc


4chan is filled with people who spout right-wing conspiracies who are making them up for personal amusement or to prove how gullible people are for believing them. It's also filled with people who spout them because they want to advance right-wing goals with disinformation. It's also filled with people who are sincere conspiracy theorists whose reasoning is just broken. Sometimes it's easy to tell which is which. Sometimes it is very hard.

What fries my brain is watching people obviously make up a conspiracy theory without putting any effort into hiding how ludicrous it is, then watching it percolate through the conservative information stream all the same. Before you know it, some bad you-tube algorithm has someone's 64 year old aunt on a street corner in a "Q" shirt spouting nonsense someone clearly made up with minimal effort as if it were gospel. This kind of thing has always been around, but how Internet mechanisms facilitate and amplify it is wild.
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Why Trump's apologetic line "I'm just fighting corruption" doesn't hold water: https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/06/politics ... index.html
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Icarus wrote:Why Trump's apologetic line "I'm just fighting corruption" doesn't hold water: https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/06/politics ... index.html

Related:

https://apnews.com/d7440cffba4940f5b85c ... utm_source
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