Democrats represent the rich working class GOP

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On the one hand, it's easy to think of course the wealthy prefer Republicans. The financial gains from doing so are enormous. On the other hand, Trumpism is a hell of a thing to sell your soul for and progressively more money when you already have a lot has decreasing marginal utility. Excusing that behavior by noting it is in their immediate financial interest lets them off the hook too easy.
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White people are not the only members of the working class and racial minorities in the working class are ludicrously Democratic in their voting behavior.

I don't think the article distinguishes working class and welfare recipient class. Most people who collect some form of government welfare lean heavily Democratic. Obviously there aren't enough wealthy Democrat elites to win elections. The power/votes of the Democratic elites is purchased in the form of social welfare handouts through income tax redistribution.
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ajax18 wrote:The power/votes of the Democratic elites is purchased in the form of social welfare handouts through income tax redistribution.

Uh-huh.

So, if only there could be a constitutional amendment banning welfare payments. the poor would start voting Republican?

Really?
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ajax18 wrote:I don't think the article distinguishes working class and welfare recipient class. Most people who collect some form of government welfare lean heavily Democratic. Obviously there aren't enough wealthy Democrat elites to win elections. The power/votes of the Democratic elites is purchased in the form of social welfare handouts through income tax redistribution.

I know that you are immune to facts when they run afoul of what you want to believe, but for others in the room, this article merits a repost:

Even as congressional Republicans mobilize for a new drive to retrench federal anti-poverty efforts, whites without a college degree—the cornerstone of the modern GOP electoral coalition—have emerged as principal beneficiaries of those programs, according to a study released Thursday morning.

The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal policy-analysis group, found that in both percentage terms and absolute numbers, federal programs reduced poverty among working-age whites without a college degree more than they did among non-college-educated Hispanics, African Americans, or members of other races, and far more than they did among college-educated adults of any race. The number of these working-age whites, in fact, exceeded the combined number of non-college-educated blacks, Hispanics, and members of other races that made such gains.

These findings, based on 2014 Census Bureau data, echo other studies showing that blue-collar whites have been among the principal beneficiaries of the Affordable Care Act. Both results underscore the challenge Republicans face reconciling their ideological determination to shrink the federal government with the practical needs of their increasingly working-class coalition.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ty/516861/
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ajax18 wrote:White people are not the only members of the working class and racial minorities in the working class are ludicrously Democratic in their voting behavior.

I don't think the article distinguishes working class and welfare recipient class

Lol. Good god you are racist.

This as a response only makes sense if, among lower income brackets, whites = "working class" and minorities = "welfare recipient" class. This, to the surprise of no one, is not the case.
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I've found that whites who collect welfare also vote Democrat more often than not.

Of course this is just stating the obvious. The only card left to play is the race card. Race really has nothing to do with welfare, the rise of disability, nor the voting behavior of the real "working class."
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ajax18 wrote:The only card left to play is the race card.

Always something racial, eh?
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ajax18 wrote:I've found that whites who collect welfare also vote Democrat more often than not.

Of course this is just stating the obvious. The only card left to play is the race card. Race really has nothing to do with welfare, the rise of disability, nor the voting behavior of the real "working class."


I point out that while working class whites are trending more Republican, working class people as a whole remain Democratic because this isn't true of racial minorities. Your response, literally, was to argue that the data doesn't make a distinction between "working class" and "welfare recipient" and of course welfare recipients are heavily Democratic. This only makes sense as a reply to what you are quoting if you think that white people in lower income brackets are "working class" and minorities are "welfare recipients." This is both false and based on a popular racist stereotype. It's not a playing "the race card" to note you are injecting racist stereotypes where they do not belong. What is "playing the race card" is being racist for no reason. Which is what you are doing.
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ajax18 wrote:I've found that whites who collect welfare also vote Democrat more often than not.


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ajax18 wrote:I've found that whites who collect welfare also vote Democrat more often than not.


You found that after conducting peer reviewed studies?

Somehow I doubt you found anything, and as a licensed medical professional you ought to know better than to state you found unsupported facts as truth.
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