Morgan Davis and the "Plot" to Destroy FARMS

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I feel like this whole apologetic thing was a cheap knockoff of the Jason Bourne novels, what with higher ups creating a ‘top secret’ program called treadstone, where specific agents were sent to assassinate enemies of the state.

Except, in this version it ended up being operation millstone, and as the higher ups were using Bradford to clean up their mess a rogue agent suffering from rage-fueled narcissism lashes out in every direction targeting everyone except his longtime paramour, with whom they share a love of travel, shitposting on the internet, and low key white supremacy.

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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Operation Millstone hehehe.

That’s darn clever right there.
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Kishkumen wrote:The fact that Doctor Scratch turned out to have been reliably and accurately informed of the role of LDS leaders in attack apologetics is really quite disappointing. This means that behind every defaming publication in the FROB there may well have been, and probably was, a GA or group of leaders, approvingly initiating the dismal enterprise. Imagine attacking the members of your own church through proxies and then having the proxies deny your role in the attacks!

Whether Midgley’s words are accurate or not, he has done a lot of damage here. I think this information is generally accurate. Leaders of the LDS Church did want to attack their internal critics without sullying their own hands. They enlisted the Mopologists to do it. For all we know, it was intended by President Hinckley to add the imprimatur of BYU to this ghoulish effort. I hope not, but it now seems to be within the realm of possibility.

In a time of deeply depressing news, I am learning to be less shocked, and yet Midgley’s revelations are truly disheartening to me.


The thing is: it's still going on. Midgley explained in one of his posts that there a special organization--Mormon Voices--was set up by Church leaders in order to help finance these attacks. FAIR Mormon; Interpreter; Book of Mormon Central: they are still engaging in smear tactics (especially Interpreter). I'm very surprised that Dr. Peterson hasn't piped up on "SeN" in response to these allegations.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
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The thing is: it's still going on. Midgley explained in one of his posts that there a special organization--Mormon Voices--was set up by Church leaders in order to help finance these attacks. FAIR Mormon; Interpreter; Book of Mormon Central: they are still engaging in smear tactics (especially Interpreter). I'm very surprised that Dr. Peterson hasn't piped up on "SeN" in response to these allegations.


Indeed, Doctor Scratch. If the Brethren have facilitated Interpreter in its efforts to attack internal critics, including BYU faculty (Parry review of Spencer), then they bear responsibility for this kind of behavior. They can't play an important role in making these things happen and then just sit back and pretend like they are unconnected to them. I mean, they can, but their protestations can no longer be taken at all seriously, be they voiced by the Mopologists or by the leaders of the Church.
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Kishkumen wrote:
The thing is: it's still going on. Midgley explained in one of his posts that there a special organization--Mormon Voices--was set up by Church leaders in order to help finance these attacks. FAIR Mormon; Interpreter; Book of Mormon Central: they are still engaging in smear tactics (especially Interpreter). I'm very surprised that Dr. Peterson hasn't piped up on "SeN" in response to these allegations.


Indeed, Doctor Scratch. If the Brethren have facilitated Interpreter in its efforts to attack internal critics, including BYU faculty (Parry review of Spencer), then they bear responsibility for this kind of behavior. They can't play an important role in making these things happen and then just sit back and pretend like they are unconnected to them. I mean, they can, but their protestations can no longer be taken at all seriously, be they voiced by the Mopologists or by the leaders of the Church.


Reverend:

I hope you saw the new revelations from Midgley, concerning the "files" that he keeps on critics. Of course, this makes sense: he also said that he and the other key Mopologists routinely "collaborate" with the SCMC in order to carry out these attacks on critics.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:I hope you saw the new revelations from Midgley, concerning the "files" that he keeps on critics. Of course, this makes sense: he also said that he and the other key Mopologists routinely "collaborate" with the SCMC in order to carry out these attacks on critics.


All of these new revelations to rationalize and justify previous revelations... it has become a Netflix originals script describing how BYU scholars were weaponized by apostles in coordinated attacks on disaffected members. This is award winning material, not only for the entertainment value, but because all of it just stinks to high heaven.
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Dr Moore wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:I hope you saw the new revelations from Midgley, concerning the "files" that he keeps on critics. Of course, this makes sense: he also said that he and the other key Mopologists routinely "collaborate" with the SCMC in order to carry out these attacks on critics.


All of these new revelations to rationalize and justify previous revelations... it has become a Netflix originals script describing how BYU scholars were weaponized by apostles in coordinated attacks on disaffected members. This is award winning material, not only for the entertainment value, but because all of it just stinks to high heaven.


The Brethren rely far too much on the arm of flesh. If only there was something they could read or do that could alleviate that...... if they just had some kind of guidance.....
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Doctor Scratch wrote:Reverend:

I hope you saw the new revelations from Midgley, concerning the "files" that he keeps on critics. Of course, this makes sense: he also said that he and the other key Mopologists routinely "collaborate" with the SCMC in order to carry out these attacks on critics.


Yes, Doctor. This has been a real eye-opener and a most disappointing one to boot. What we feared might be the case, and were assured was not, has proven to be true. Certain Brethren have wielded Mopologetics against members of their own flock, like Palpatine using Count Dooku. Unfortunately, we were misinformed, and I am quite unhappy to find that this was the case. What kind of regard am I now to have for those who participated in this nonsense? Well, it is not high.

Here we see the price of engaging in these shenanigans. It is brought home to us time and time again. The methods of Mopologetics and those who deployed them have brought the LDS Church into ill repute among the Church's own members. Those who investigate Mopologetics in any depth come to see the problems and have reason to be troubled, at least, and perhaps even alienated.

My hope resides in the younger generation of scholars who are now coming up. Will the changes they bring with them be sufficient to create a healthier, more productive, and more transparent Church education?

One hopes.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
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