Rules of Patheos: Midgley appears to violate TOS 10x

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:It really is an ugly and despicable place. The anger, hostility and juvenile behavior on display is unbelievable. Peter$on should be both embarrassed and ashamed.


And he blames posters from here for it!? Amazing! I guess Lou cannot control himself. Therefore, we are at fault. Yep, the man is innocent, it is everyone else who is guilty. Pure Mormonism..... I am so G.A.W.D.D.A.M. glad I do not have to defend this kind of personality breakdown. This is purely an example of what Mormonism can potentially do to your soul.......I am, most unfortunately, quite serious. ALL the guilt, pressure, goals, guilt, never able to do enough, etc., literally cankers the soul. I am not attacking Lou, I am noticing him. There is a serious difference. This is an unfortunate example of Mormon Soul Rot. I actually do feel sorry for the poor guy.
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Let him drive that conspiracy over the cliff if he wants.

I just see it now as I am entertaining an old man, he loves doing this stuff. Good for him and nice of Professor Peterson to give Midgley the place to do it at.


Now for the apology portion. Hell NO. He used another people and culture as a faith promoting prop.

When he was confronted he immediately hid his responsibility behind saying “you are being hostile to the Maori” I wasn’t the first person he used this lazy argument with, the evidence is in the comment section of his article.

I grew up listening to local church leaders on one hand saying I was of noble lamanite bloom while saying my family had wicked traditions of their fathers. All of it is their BS traditions of racist thought.

At this point I feel I have every right to call it what it is.

Midgley isn’t speaking for any Maori, just his ego.
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Midgley's Maori scholarship is quite bad and wouldn't get printed anywhere but Interpreter.

If I had to pick a most serious flaw outside of the obvious agenda-driven nature of it, i would go with his appeal to his experiences as a missionary as refutation of others' research.
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Gadianton wrote:Midgley's Maori scholarship is quite bad and wouldn't get printed anywhere but Interpreter.

If I had to pick a most serious flaw outside of the obvious agenda-driven nature of it, i would go with his appeal to his experiences as a missionary as refutation of others' research.

The serious flaw I would pick would be that he considers his interpretation of mystical experiences, visions of biblical characters, and general lore passed down through generations of story telling as hard immutable fact, and then accuses Newton of not treating the LDS version of these stories as objective “fact” in her history.

In one comment, he noted that the Maori seemed to be passing down these stories and “forgetting” to include the LDS components, so he appreciated some intense educational work done to remind the Maori that the stories supported the LDS, what he calls “defending the Maori Latter-day Saint narrative from criticism.”

That’s not academic work, and I agree, he can only publish this stuff in the Interpreter.
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My father is about the same age as Dr. Midgley and was recently very crabby and upset. One of the medical doctors in the family suggested that perhaps my father wasn't getting enough bran in his diet as my father confided that he periodically has problems with his internal plumbing. Also, some of the medications my father was taking added to the plumbing problems and the doctor prescribed some laxatives. Maybe Dr. Midgley has a chronic indigestion problem caused by a continual lack of bran in his diet?

Dr. Midgley, please take generous portions of your bran every day and perhaps consult your medical professional to see if strong laxatives are for you. The constant indigestion is a problem and has been spilling into your work.
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Lemmie wrote:In one comment, he noted that the Maori seemed to be passing down these stories and “forgetting” to include the LDS components, so he appreciated some intense educational work done to remind the Maori that the stories supported the LDS, what he calls “defending the Maori Latter-day Saint narrative from criticism.”

That’s not academic work, and I agree, he can only publish this stuff in the Interpreter.


So he is upset that the cultural imperialism isn't working? So he recommends some intensive "re-education" I guess that is what one does when they see them only as faith promoting props to be manipulated to support his story.

He doesn't get it. His version "The Maori Latter-day Saint Narrative" isn't their story. So if anyone challenges that notion he reflexively does the only thing he knows how to do attack.
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Louis "erasing Maori culture is my thing" Midgley > DanielPeterson 5 hours ago

Dan: Dr. VelhoBurrinho indicated to me that he was doing his dance on that dreadful Other Place. Since I have only a few times visited that sewer, I was not aware of what you have reported. I actually assumed that he really is an MD and so forth. But I now suspect that he is just another phony who is busy projecting.


The light of Christ continues to shine brightly with our little racist stolen valor antagonist.

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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Dr LOD wrote:
Lemmie wrote:In one comment, he noted that the Maori seemed to be passing down these stories and “forgetting” to include the LDS components, so he appreciated some intense educational work done to remind the Maori that the stories supported the LDS, what he calls “defending the Maori Latter-day Saint narrative from criticism.”

That’s not academic work, and I agree, he can only publish this stuff in the Interpreter.

So he is upset that the cultural imperialism isn't working? So he recommends some intensive "re-education" I guess that is what one does when they see them only as faith promoting props to be manipulated to support his story.

He doesn't get it. His version "The Maori Latter-day Saint Narrative" isn't their story. So if anyone challenges that notion he reflexively does the only thing he knows how to do attack.

Exactly. Here is Midgley’s approach, in his own words:

Midgley:

...I am setting out and defending the "Maori Latter-day Saint historical narrative." And not something that I made up.

In the seven decades Latter-day Saint missionaries from wherever they may have come may have never even heard a word about how the Maori became Latter-day Saints. And in those seven decades even Maori have, unfortunately, not passed on to their children those true stories.

Hence there has been a huge effort that was going on all over the North Island by Herewini Jones in three day sessions held in the Maori carved houses around New Zealand where ten hours a day for those three days set out the Maori Latter-day Saint Maori historical narrative.

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 4#p1199674

So the locals didn’t carry on Midgley’s version of the LDS stories? Re-education will fix that!
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Dr LOD wrote:He doesn't get it. His version "The Maori Latter-day Saint Narrative" isn't their story. So if anyone challenges that notion he reflexively does the only thing he knows how to do attack.

Spot on. They begin by assuming theirs is the truth and all others are apostate. Apologists will deny this, so this is yet another gift from Midgley to the world. We are right, you are wrong, listen to us or we will re-educate you. The essence of brainwash, another thing they deny, and without any conviction, other than to themselves.
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Midge just seems like he is stomping his feet on this one like some toddler. NO, NO, NO, NO, my way, my way!!!! The Maori need whites to civilize them and show them their true stories!
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