"Donald Trump is the not the cause of all of our problems"

[_DoubtingThomas]

Andrew Yang makes a lot of sense and I hope his ideas are taken seriously in the near future. Yang will not be the next president of the US, but hopefully he runs again in 2028.

[_Dr. Shades]

Why do you want him to skip the 2024 election?

[_Gunnar]

Andrew Yang makes a lot of sense and I hope his ideas are taken seriously in the near future. Yang will not be the next president of the US, but hopefully he runs again in 2028.

I agree with Yang that Trump is both a symptom and a consequence of what is deeply wrong with America. But he certainly adds to the problem and makes it more intractable.

[_Some Schmo]

Who actually thinks Trump is the cause of all our problems?

That's what's known as a straw man.

Trump is certainly symbolic of a lot of America's problems, but I haven't heard anyone blame him for everything wrong with the US.

Someone's been pulling your Yang.

[_Markk]

I believe the point is, that the sole focus of the left, is Trump. He is in their heads 24/7. CNN, and MSLSD (LOL Mark Livin), and the majority of news outlets have such a Jones for Trump, it is truly a case of Trump derangement syndrome.

Even here...How many threads are started about the Democrats, by Democrats, that have nothing to do with Trump, not many.

Your heads are so far up his butt, you can't even breath anything but Trump, and he has you right where he wants you.

This is what Carville was alluding to...Get a solid plan, quit with the open border nonsense, quit with the legalizing heroin, quite with trying to get people in jail the right to vote, quite with having children pick cabinet members, and actually come up with a plan that most people can relate to. While he said that getting Trump out is the most important thing to him, you are not going to do it, by having no plan, no settled core, and to my point... no focus except whining and complaining about Trump, and dreaming up one conspiracy after another that just fall away.

But Schmo..."Someone's been pulling your Yang."...good one LOL

[_Res Ipsa]

Most people I talk politics with don't see Trump as a cause of our problems -- they see him as a symptom. As I see it, the problem in its most general form is the richest Americans using the political system to grab almost all of the wealth, and then convincing the least well off Americans to fight against each other over what's left. That's what the right wing media has been very good at: Fox News is some rich guys laughing all the way to the bank because they've persuaded poor white folks to direct their anger and resentment against poor not white folks. That's how you end up with folks who don't care when Trump funnels taxpayer dollars into his own bank account but who are apoplectic at the thought of an unemployed black mother getting a single dollar.

[_canpakes]

That's how you end up with folks who don't care when Trump funnels taxpayer dollars into his own bank account but who are apoplectic at the thought of an unemployed black mother getting a single dollar.

Somewhere out there, there’s a long-time MD board member who would reflexively shout out right now about how giving that unemployed black mother a dollar amounts to keeping her “on the plantation” ... but he knows that he’ll end up with his foot in his mouth if he were to try to explain just how that works. ; )

[_EAllusion]

And with that, Andrew Yang out.

Trump is a both a symptom of and an accelerant to America's most serious problems. Expecting it have to be one or the other is a mistake. As such, getting rid of Trump won't solve all the problems in the present or risks in the near-future, but it sure as hell will help.

[_subgenius]

And with that, Andrew Yang out.

Trump is a both a symptom of and an accelerant to America's most serious problems. Expecting it have to be one or the other is a mistake. As such, getting rid of Trump won't solve all the problems in the present or risks in the near-future, but it sure as hell will help.

what actual problems are you taking about?
uncomfortable perceptions?
offended sensibilities?
rattled cages?

for the sake of it all, what the heck have you been wringing your hands about for the last+36 months?

Is it the lack of wars? criminal justice reform? your paycheck? deeply corrupt Senators retiring? the rest of the world pitching in? ...

[_Markk]

This is to my point SG, well said...they are so focused on Trump, and that is it...I would love to see each one of these folks here, the real Trump haters expound on the democratic candidate they want to run against Trump. I would like to honestly compare the the perceived horrible things Trump is doing, with the proposed policies and avenues their choice would make?

EA...or anyone else, who is your democratic pick and why?