"Donald Trump is the not the cause of all of our problems"

[_Res Ipsa]

And with that, Andrew Yang out.

Trump is a both a symptom of and an accelerant to America's most serious problems. Expecting it have to be one or the other is a mistake. As such, getting rid of Trump won't solve all the problems in the present or risks in the near-future, but it sure as hell will help.

I agree. The categories are not exclusive. It can't hurt to get rid of Trump before he crashes through more of the norms that out system depends on, but it won't undo the considerable damage done.

[_canpakes]

Is it the lack of wars? criminal justice reform? your paycheck? deeply corrupt Senators retiring? the rest of the world pitching in? ...

Pretty sure that your compensation is no more dependent upon what this Administration is doing as it was the last, but state-level mandated increases in minimum wage levels have helped some of the folks who work within the lowest echelons of the economy, despite general opposition to that legislation from Republicans.

Health care and prescription costs are not better under the present Administration. Neither is the outlook for Social Security solvency, our national debt, or the overall trade imbalance.

GDP is trudging along at levels that aren’t even a half-percentage point better than the yearly average from the previous Administration - and without having a recession to recover from.

Even ‘criminal justice reform’ relied heavily on the pre-existing FSA of 2010.

By the way, Sgt. 1st Class Javier Jaguar Gutierrez, Sgt. 1st Class Antonio Rey Rodriguez, a hundred other soldiers from Iraq that have come down with ‘headaches’ - as Trump calls them - and 13000 other guys in uniform want to talk to you about that “lack of endless wars”.

I know, I know - Trump prefers soldiers who ‘don’t get killed’.

[_Themis]

I believe the point is, that the sole focus of the left, is Trump. He is in their heads 24/7. CNN, and MSLSD (LOL Mark Livin), and the majority of news outlets have such a Jones for Trump, it is truly a case of Trump derangement syndrome.

Even here...How many threads are started about the Democrats, by Democrats, that have nothing to do with Trump, not many.

Your heads are so far up his butt, you can't even breath anything but Trump, and he has you right where he wants you.

This is what Carville was alluding to...Get a solid plan, quit with the open border nonsense, quit with the legalizing heroin, quite with trying to get people in jail the right to vote, quite with having children pick cabinet members, and actually come up with a plan that most people can relate to. While he said that getting Trump out is the most important thing to him, you are not going to do it, by having no plan, no settled core, and to my point... no focus except whining and complaining about Trump, and dreaming up one conspiracy after another that just fall away.

But Schmo..."Someone's been pulling your Yang."...good one LOL

I suggest getting out of your information bubble a little more.

[_canpakes]

I suggest getting out of your information bubble a little more.

I wonder if we should call it a disinformation bubble. : )

[_Themis]

Most people I talk politics with don't see Trump as a cause of our problems -- they see him as a symptom. As I see it, the problem in its most general form is the richest Americans using the political system to grab almost all of the wealth, and then convincing the least well off Americans to fight against each other over what's left. That's what the right wing media has been very good at: Fox News is some rich guys laughing all the way to the bank because they've persuaded poor white folks to direct their anger and resentment against poor not white folks. That's how you end up with folks who don't care when Trump funnels taxpayer dollars into his own bank account but who are apoplectic at the thought of an unemployed black mother getting a single dollar.

Good description of one of the biggest problems and the last part is a perfect description of Ajax.

Another big problem related to your post is a massive debt and massive deficit. The hypocrites on the right talk a lot about it when a democrat is in power, but go silent when they are in power. They got all three houses after the 2016 election and instead of being fiscally responsible they increased an already large deficit into a much larger one. This is in my opinion one of the few things that will bring down the US if not dealt with.

[_Themis]

I suggest getting out of your information bubble a little more.

I wonder if we should call it a disinformation bubble. : )

LOL I would say if it's a bubble it probably is mostly disinformation.

[_moksha]

... quite with having children pick cabinet members ...

Even though he has the temperament of a child, Trump is actually a senior citizen. However, I agree. Trump has selected the worst cabinet members ever.

[_ajax18]

This is in my opinion one of the few things that will bring down the US if not dealt with.

It didn't take you long to abandon the idea that a large deficit and debt is sign of a healthy economy. That's only true before 11-7-16 and only if the debt is accrued in the name of welfare and foreign aid.

[_Themis]

It didn't take you long to abandon the idea that a large deficit and debt is sign of a healthy economy.

CFR. Please quote where I said it was a sign of a healthy economy. I have noted you don't complain about large deficits and debts now that Trump has exploded the deficit. I don't recall, did Trump say his tax cuts would increase the economy more then enough to bring down the deficit?

[_DoubtingThomas]

Someone's been pulling your Yang.

Here is the full quote, ""Donald Trump is the not the cause of all of our problems and we're making a mistake when we act like he is. He is a symptom of a disease that has been building up in our communities for years and decades, and it is our job to get to the harder work of actually curing the disease,"