Bloomberg and what he brings to the mix$

[_EAllusion]

On the legislative front, Trump has been a tremendously weak President. One of the weakest ever. On the executive action front, he's doing things that can easily be unwound. Where he's really been impactful is in hollowing out the government workforce to be replaced by partisan hacks and loyalists and dismantling unwritten norms around good, sustainable governance in a liberal democracy. He's also reshaped American foreign policy by weakening the traditional alliances between Western democracies while more closely aligning US interests and actions with despots. Is that the main thing Markk is interested in seeing happen? I doubt it. It's probably one of those things where he hears about a list of Trump's accomplishments on the radio that mostly involve giving Trump credit for things he has little to nothing to do with or are devoid of meaningful content. Low unemployment! Fewer regulations! That kind of thing.

[_MeDotOrg]

Well I am nearly 70 years old, but I have been using the internet since before the world wide web, when it was a text-based Unix system. So yeah, bucko, I've probably been using the internet longer than you have.

So explain what you mean.

You are scolding about a very common form of communication on the Internet that doesn't carry the implication you seem to think it does, which makes you come across as an older person who is out of touch with evolving standards of language. You hit the sweet spot of moral panic and misunderstanding of culture that tends to be associated with older age.

I am on the Internet almost every day, and I have been since the 1980's. I watched the Internet evolve from DARPA servers and Unix terminal emulation programs, though the first beta versions of Netscape. I am not shocked by the Internet.

Tell me why that form of communication 'doesn't carry the implication that you seem to thing it does". Please tell me why I don't understand If someone were to post a racist meme that I find upsetting, should I realize that I am an old person that is experiencing the 'sweet spot of moral panic and misunderstanding'? That I should just let things slide? When a young person complains, is it because they are 'woke'? And when and old person complains it's just 'scolding'?

If a communication form is common, does that mean it cannot be upsetting? That people should be never upset about Misogyny and Misandry? Please tell me about the 'evolving standard of language' that I should be recognizing and obeying.

Or just admit that your comment was based on ignorance and stereotyping.

[_ajax18]

Do you wonder, if someone made a joke about cutting off Elizabeth Warren's arm and shove it up her vagina, do you think people would be laughing? Would that be funny? Is what's good for the goose good for the gander?

You're one of the few liberals I've seen who doesn't believe in replacing one form of hate for another.

[_EAllusion]

I am on the Internet almost every day, and I have been since the 1980's. I watched the Internet evolve from DARPA servers and Unix terminal emulation programs, though the first beta versions of Netscape. I am not shocked by the Internet.

Tell me why that form of communication 'doesn't carry the implication that you seem to thing it does". Please tell me why I don't understand If someone were to post a racist meme that I find upsetting, should I realize that I am an old person that is experiencing the 'sweet spot of moral panic and misunderstanding'? That I should just let things slide? When a young person complains, is it because they are 'woke'? And when and old person complains it's just 'scolding'?

If a communication form is common, does that mean it cannot be upsetting? That people should be never upset about Misogyny and Misandry? Please tell me about the 'evolving standard of language' that I should be recognizing and obeying.

Or just admit that your comment was based on ignorance and stereotyping.

It's not misandrist. It's not even close to being misandrist. That's not what misandry is. That you don't know this despite how common it is suggests you are out of touch. That you think "racist meme" is the apt analogy suggests you are out of touch. That's why I said you come off like a person who is older and unfamiliar with common online interaction. That online vernacular, as I've tried to be more explicit about, is just a variation of a common phenomenon in language. And yes, I compared you to a group likely to be out of touch with online vernacular (very old people without Internet experience) to draw a stereotypical comparison. Duh. I had no idea what your age is when I wrote that.

When I say Eliabeth Warern kicked Bloomberg's teeth in and you react with, "Zomg! Political violence is unacceptable EA. Don't encourage this. Shut your trash mouth." it doesn't actually matter how hard you Internet. What matters is you have a goofy understanding of words that is making you a moral scold where it is not helpful.

[_EAllusion]

I suppose that post also had that, "If I can't use the n-word, then why can people say it in their rappety-rap-rap music" quality that reads as pure Boomer heroin. Because the contextual meaning is different?

[Guest]

When I say Eliabeth Warern kicked Bloomberg's teeth in and you react with, "Zomg! Political violence is unacceptable EA. Don't encourage this. Shut your trash mouth." it doesn't actually matter how hard you Internet. What matters is you have a goofy understanding of words that is making you a moral scold where it is not helpful.

When did I say shut your trash mouth? Or is lying about what I said part of the new reality you like? When I quoted you I quoted exactly what you said, not something I made up. I don't put words in your mouth. Don't put them in mine. When you put quotes around something that I didn't say and say I said it, how do you expect me to respect your honesty?

[_DoubtingThomas]

Elizabeth Warren bodied Bloomberg for a few minutes on TV and managed to light hundreds of millions of his dollars on fire and force him to make a substantial improvement in the practices of a major American business.

Not too shabby.

I have a feeling that you are going to vote for Elizabeth Warren. But I agree it was just terrible for Bloomberg.

[_MeDotOrg]

I think for the proles 'punching him in the dick' is a fine way to say Ms. Warren did well at the debate. Salty language infused with visceral imagery has long been a staple of us common folk. No need to tut tut it, in my opinion.

Now. If Ms. Warren said, "I punched that cockgoblin squarely in the mangina." I'd march down to the post office, swim through millions of pieces of mail until I could find my mail-in ballot, and immediately proceed to tear it to pieces*.

Edited: I voted for the richer Jew.

- Doc

So if I were to say that someone should tear off Elizabeth Warren's arm and shove it up her vagina, that would be "salty"? You think that is the level of discourse that we should pursue?

Should we, as a culture, be horrified with our President talking about 'grab 'em by the pussy', but elated when a commentator talks about tearing off arms?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

MDO,

Why in the world would you equate what a rando on Twitter says to a Presidential nominee? This is where EA says you’re not up to speed on nuance despite having been on the Intertubes since day 1.

To answer your questions: Yes. Up to you. No. Up to you.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

When I say Eliabeth Warern kicked Bloomberg's teeth in and you react with, "Zomg! Political violence is unacceptable EAllusion. Don't encourage this. Shut your trash mouth." it doesn't actually matter how hard you Internet. What matters is you have a goofy understanding of words that is making you a moral scold where it is not helpful.

When did I say shut your trash mouth? Or is lying about what I said part of the new reality you like? When I quoted you I quoted exactly what you said, not something I made up. I don't put words in your mouth. Don't put them in mine. When you put quotes around something that I didn't say and say I said it, how do you expect me to respect your honesty?

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What? Obviously this is a comic description of the reasoning your are employing applied to an analogous example. Also, I don't appreciate you referring to me as "putting words in your mouth." I did not violate your bodily integrity to shove words in your mouth, and I don't appreciate such violence being attributed to me.