Did this really just happen?

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_Res Ipsa
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Re: Did this really just happen?

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I won’t fight you on this one, Honor. The name well and truly sucks.
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One of the keys to approaching sources like Twitter appropriately is knowing you are bringing your own perspective and biases into reading others personal experiences so what you are reading is a new creation; their experience filtered through your perspective.

Journalism is intended to act like a sort of counter by forcing an etic view be taken and processes followed to reduce the risk of misreporting.
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Yes. Doc is cherry picking sensational tweets. I showed how he got punked by a known liar (at least around here). But what he’s posting is in no way close to an accurate portrayal of what’s going on in the zone. Because of some very motivated individual, isolated tweets are a poor source unless you take the time to investigate the account.
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This account:

https://mobile.Twitter.com/RainCityAntifa

or someone affiliated with it (probably @raincity161 with a retweet, who then deleted their account) definitely asked for more guns, as evidenced by this tweet:

https://mobile.Twitter.com/RainCityAnti ... 4332352513

and

https://mobile.Twitter.com/RainCityAnti ... 6693033985

There’s also another tweet on that account heavily implying guns should be brought to the CHAZ. I hardly think I was punked by Andy Ngo since I hadn’t looked at his Twitter, and I think he was just retweeting @raincity161’s retweet of the original post. I dunno, it’s kind of hard keeping my Twitter ducks in a row.

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Doc, there is no raincity161 account. There never was. Andy Ngo made it up, even copying from the Seattle Antifacist Twitter account to try and fool credulous people like you. As soon as Andy was shown retweeting a fake tweet from a nonexistent account, locals who pay attention to this stuff understood what was going on.This is is a thing Seattle will handle just fine if folks like you and Trump stop whipping up hysteria about it.
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I didn't expect this. Not sure what I think about it. Need to know more...will find out. :eek: Just on first take, this sounds bassackwards to me.
Denver School Board votes unanimously to remove the Denver Police from schools

The school board in Denver, Colorado, voted unanimously on Thursday to remove the Denver Police Department from their schools.

The plan will be to phase out four of the police officers by the end of December 31, 2020. On June 4, 2021, the remaining 13 police officers at Denver Public Schools will be phased out, board of education member Tay Anderson told CNN.

“We already have your own safety and security department to patrol our schools,” Anderson said.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george ... 02a81e8342
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:56 am
I didn't expect this. Not sure what I think about it. Need to know more...will find out. :eek: Just on first take, this sounds bassackwards to me.
Wow, Jersey Girl. You think that sounds like a bad idea?

I'm not picking on you. I'm actually struck that the police presence in the US is so ubiquitous and accepted, it sounds like a bad idea to you to remove them from schools!

I think I saw a police officer in my school maybe twice total growing up, and one of them was in an assembly about the local police.
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Re: Did this really just happen?

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Here's what I find amusing/sad:

- America is about freedom
- Freedom includes owning a gun
- The easy accessibility of guns makes others scared
- Ubiquitous fear drives a desire for more police
- Police doing work they shouldn't be doing reduces American freedom

Schools don't need more police. America needs less fuc-king guns.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:34 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:56 am
I didn't expect this. Not sure what I think about it. Need to know more...will find out. :eek: Just on first take, this sounds bassackwards to me.
Wow, Jersey Girl. You think that sounds like a bad idea?

I'm not picking on you. I'm actually struck that the police presence in the US is so ubiquitous and accepted, it sounds like a bad idea to you to remove them from schools!

I think I saw a police officer in my school maybe twice total growing up, and one of them was in an assembly about the local police.
Like I said, I need to know more.
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Re: Did this really just happen?

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RI,

What I'm saying is the Seattle antifa account literally asked for more guns, which they confirm they did here by saying Andy Ngo got triggered by it:

https://mobile.Twitter.com/RainCityAnti ... 6693033985

Are you suggesting that Andy Ngo created raincity161, posted a request for more guns, then retweeted it, and then deleted the account?

Edit: Here's their tweet:

https://mobile.Twitter.com/RainCityAnti ... 4332352513

And here's their tweet about arming themselves:

https://mobile.Twitter.com/RainCityAnti ... 2665546752

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:46 am
This is a pretty good description of life in Chaz. https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2020/0 ... omous-zone
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Re: Did this really just happen?

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Icarus,

Are you ok with people seceding into their own little autonomous zones?

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