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President Donald Trump on Friday deflected blame for his administration’s lagging ability to test Americans for the coronavirus outbreak, insisting instead — without offering evidence — that fault lies with his predecessor, Barack Obama.
“I don't take responsibility at all,” Trump said defiantly, pointing to an unspecified “set of circumstances” and “rules, regulations and specifications from a different time.”
Only now he is the one setting up the risky situation to feed his needy narcissism and soothe his political desperation, so you have to agree up-front that it's still not his fault if it ends up killing you or a loved one.
Figures.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
In the same vein, here's a picture of the Head of the Coronavirus Task Force, Mike Pence, addressing a roomful of volunteers.
The tweet was later deleted by the Vice President, after it was pointed out that no one wearing a mask, and no one was practicing social distancing.
Ladies and Gentlemen, the head of the Coronavirus task force. A model of Godlike virtue for the country to emulate.
This is the guy who went to a Colts game specifically so that he could walk out when Colin Kaepernick knelt during the National Anthem. The Veep knows how to make a statement.
"The great problem of any civilization is how to rejuvenate itself without rebarbarization." - Will Durant "We've kept more promises than we've even made" - Donald Trump "Of what meaning is the world without mind? The question cannot exist." - Edwin Land
In more fun news, Jacksonville evidently doesn't have enough hotel room capacity for all the attendees. So they are considering bringing in Cruise Ships to house conventioneers, just like they did when they hosted the Superbowl.
So: Pandemic, not enough hotel rooms, no social distancing at the convention, and people staying in Cruise Ships at the beginning of hurricane season. Should be a great 'Right to Life' convention.
If you could go back in time to 2012 and tell people the history of 2020, no one would believe you.
"The great problem of any civilization is how to rejuvenate itself without rebarbarization." - Will Durant "We've kept more promises than we've even made" - Donald Trump "Of what meaning is the world without mind? The question cannot exist." - Edwin Land
In more fun news, Jacksonville evidently doesn't have enough hotel room capacity for all the attendees. So they are considering bringing in Cruise Ships to house conventioneers,
That is less than reassuring for potential attenders, given all the history of cruise ships as COVID-19 hell holes, and Trump's lack of interest in letting the passengers of said ships disembark ....
The US president has said he would rather have people remain onboard a cruise ship, which was denied entry to San Francisco over coronavirus concerns.
Trump conceded on Friday that he would let others decide whether to allow the passengers to leave the Grand Princess, where 35 people have reported flu-like symptoms. Trump appeared to explicitly acknowledge his political concerns about the outbreak, saying: 'I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn’t our fault'
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
In case you didn't have enough evidence Trump has contempt for his idiot fans and wants them all to die...
So: Pandemic, not enough hotel rooms, no social distancing at the convention, and people staying in Cruise Ships at the beginning of hurricane season. Should be a great 'Right to Life' convention.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
I had a question for the legal minds of the board: if people sign the waiver and go to the Trump revival, I assume they can't sue themselves, but what if they then go home and make someone else fatally ill, or even die themselves. Can't members of that family who didn't go/sign the waiver still sue?
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
I had a question for the legal minds of the board: if people sign the waiver and go to the Trump revival, I assume they can't sue themselves, but what if they then go home and make someone else fatally ill, or even die themselves. Can't members of that family who didn't go/sign the waiver still sue?
The laws governing the effect of waivers vary from state to state. That said, I'd be pretty surprised if the waiver were enforceable against someone who didn't attend the rally. The tough issues would be the elements of the tort. Does the President have a duty to warn or protect people who don't attend the rally? The duty must be one owed individually to that person, and not one owed generally to the public by virtue of his status as President. Did he breach the duty? Did the breach cause the harm? Or did the actions of the person who attended the rally and then passed the virus on break that chain of causation? I haven't tried to find a case on similar facts, but those are the issues that come to mind.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
I had a question for the legal minds of the board: if people sign the waiver and go to the Trump revival, I assume they can't sue themselves, but what if they then go home and make someone else fatally ill, or even die themselves. Can't members of that family who didn't go/sign the waiver still sue?
The laws governing the effect of waivers vary from state to state. That said, I'd be pretty surprised if the waiver were enforceable against someone who didn't attend the rally. The tough issues would be the elements of the tort. Does the President have a duty to warn or protect people who don't attend the rally? The duty must be one owed individually to that person, and not one owed generally to the public by virtue of his status as President. Did he breach the duty? Did the breach cause the harm? Or did the actions of the person who attended the rally and then passed the virus on break that chain of causation? I haven't tried to find a case on similar facts, but those are the issues that come to mind.
Thanks, RI. Follow up question:
Given what you just wrote, do you think this rally exposes Trump legally, despite the waivers, or would the case be too hard to prove?
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
Given what you just wrote, do you think this rally exposes Trump legally, despite the waivers, or would the case be too hard to prove?
My Wild-Assed Guess is that the exposure is minimal, as long as the rally doesn't violate applicable guidance on COVID that applies in Tulsa. Even then, I'd expect any liability to fall on the campaign organization as opposed to Trump personally. He can't be sued civilly for actions he takes as President. So the suit couldn't be based on what he says as president about the risk. It would have to be something specific to the rally.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
