Rules of Patheos: Midgley appears to violate TOS 10x

[_Dr LOD]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, Dr. LOD, but I believe this comment from the Proprietor was directed at you:

Vegan Burrito is a toxic and hateful jerk. Pay no attention to him.

Their opinion does not affect me in the least bit. The behaviors exhibited over the years by the Proprietor and his sidekicks I find repugnant. Why the church tolerates such a unprincipled "defense" is perplexing.

One does not make it through medical school, and residency without developing fairly thick skin.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

The Midge:

"And we are all commanded to now do our duty as well as we can to bring light and life to a still fallen world by allowing ourselves to become Holy Ones (Saints) by showing others in deeds and words that sanctification both badly needed and also possible here and now."

He said to them, "Go into all the world and be an insufferable asshole to all of my creations." - The Gospel of Lou, Chapter 24, Verse 7

- Doc

[_Gadianton]

Louis Midgley -> Fred Kratz: "May I henceforth address you as cockroach #2?"

Daniel Peterson -> Louis Midgley: "LOL."

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Li'l Lou Midgley continues to practice the Gospel of Lou with this missive: "cockroach #2: Your cockroachness once again is clearly manifest in you comment. You were the one who flopped into the cockroach trap, or who marched right into the very best of roach traps--that is, the one set out for you by gemli itself. Some roaches, I am told, can actually fly. I doubt that this is true of either gemli or you."

- Doc

[_Dr LOD]

Louis Midgley -> Fred Kratz: "May I henceforth address you as cockroach #2?"

Daniel Peterson -> Louis Midgley: "LOL."

My my don't they think they are funny.
Depersonalization of individuals is the first step to something worse. Here is where calling someone a "cockroach" has also been used.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ce/587041/

[_Temp. Admin.]

The odd part is that the proprietor himself repeatedly and obsessively declares that he doesn't want the caliber of dialogue found here to end up over there. Yet now we can clearly see that Lou's dialogue there has become orders of magnitude worse than anything to be found here, BY FAR.

[_Doctor Scratch]

The odd part is that the proprietor himself repeatedly and obsessively declares that he doesn't want the caliber of dialogue found here to end up over there. Yet now we can clearly see that Lou's dialogue there has become orders of magnitude worse than anything to be found here, BY FAR.

Oh, it just keeps getting better and better. The Mopologists have acknowledged that the use of the term "cockroach" is demeaning and dehumanizing, but now they are arguing that Gemli is a mere "step" away from being on a par with Hitler:

But it's only a short step -- not at all a leap, and really quite reasonable -- from regarding humans as "meat wads" and as no more significant than cockroaches to putting them in extermination camps, treating them as cannon fodder, seeing them as intrinsically without value, exploiting them as mere means to one's own ends.

So, I guess Midgley and DCP calling Fred Kratz a "cockroach" was meant to teach him a lesson that he's on a path to putting people in concentration camps? DCP has been calling people names for decades: remember Markkk? Or "Mocksha"? If these guys know that this is a pathway to National Socialism, then why do they engage in it so often? (Remember: the Nazis were fond of censorship, too....)

[_Dr Exiled]

DCP goes on and on in post after post about being attacked over here. Yet, he continually brings up the subject and continually posts in response to what is said over here. He has to love the attention, playing victim.

[_Lemmie]

Peterson’s victimhood stance reminded me that last year Gadianton documented that Peterson originated the “meat unit” insult directed at gemli, with of course, Midgley’s enthusiastic support:

emphasis added. OMG.

Also note that in calling Gemli a rotting bag of meat, twice, both DCP and Kiwi up-voted the accusation.

I've been responded to. Thank you for the response, in this thread:

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... qus_thread

Amusingly, over at the Peterson Obsession Board, where they've made misreading into both an art form and an imperative, some of the inmates are attacking YOU for the contemptuous character of GEMLI's description of human persons.

No no, it's not fundamentally Midgley's or Gemli's description, the origin of the description is with DCP himself:

I believe that this emission is an example of what naïve sentimentalists, with their tendency to anthropomorphize random products of biochemical evolution, call “thought.”

It’s not a very good one, though.

Along with others, I’ve regularly asked this particular meat-unit exactly which element of the scientific method theists are obliged to mock or reject.

DCP began to call Gemli a "meat unit" as a way to mock Gemli personally for his position of reductivism:

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... y-lad.html

However, while not very nice, probably rating on the "not nice" scale the same as a barb against Mormonism from William Lane Craig, in the hands of Midgley, the barb becomes an aluminum bat, and he "can't stop" until he's pulled away by others. Interestingly, Lou recognizes the origin of the barb (from the comment section):

My hunch is that by "experimental" what gemli has in mind is pestering rats and mice on the assumption that by doing this one can explain away the soul of human beings and hence see everyone as merely an unusual complicated It or Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.

So, lol, omg, folks, you can't make this stuff up. I may have my new sig line, with this quote from Midgley.

Then later in the thread, Gemli, the stand-up guy he is, rolls with the punches:

Human beings are meat units. They're not magical. They think wrong thing

In the same way that early Christians went with it and called themselves "Christians" when they were scornfully referred to as "Christies". If the apologists can find a clear example -- or if Gemli wants to help them -- of Gemli referring to himself as meat wad prior to this post, then they might have a defense. The problem is, this is the first instances I believe of the trio all using the term, and using it in response to the clear introduction of the term by the blog owner.

notice how Kiwi ratchets up the insult:

Is it politeness, or is it the fact that "it" - presumably the meat unit known by the posting handle of "gemli" - hasn't read the Book of Mormon, and so is in no position to comment on its contents?

Midgley's mean-spiritedness shines through, riffing on Kiwi's next layer implication -- that a meat unit is an "it" without feelings:

I wonder if It will moan that we are mocking him, and are mean, which he never does and hence is always nice, and therefore wins some debate that he imagines he is having.

And these kinds of insults have increased. Now, Midgley is stepping back and agreeing with DCP that it was Gemli who started this, and to paraphrase " pray tell, aren't I just saying exactly what Gemli said? He said meat wad, isn't a rotting piece of meat just another way of saying that? And as I express this presently, I'm relaxed and not spun up and aggravated as in the other examples so this is okay, right? This is how you wanted us to refer to you. Ya, you just said that. Those guys over there are making stuff up out of thin air."

Not very nice, guys. Certainly, the harassing of Gemli, even if he's a good sport, goes well beyond any "not niceness" exhibited by William Lane Craig.

[_Lemmie]

Peterson, forgetting he originated the “meat unit” insult, describes his own behavior:

DanielPeterson Mod Moksha • an hour ago

Moksha: "Gemli might use the term "meatwad" for an effect, but a never read into it any denigration of the dignity of human nature."

Neither have I. And I'm sure that he does use it for effect. I don't confuse gemli with Hitler.

But it's only a short step -- not at all a leap, and really quite reasonable -- from regarding humans as "meat wads" and as no more significant than cockroaches to putting them in extermination camps, treating them as cannon fodder, seeing them as intrinsically without value, exploiting them as mere means to one's own ends.

http://disq.us/p/29z3ibs

So Peterson, in defining gemli as a “meat unit” and an “it”, is only a short step from seeing him “as intrinsically without value.”