Louis Midgley Threatens to "Pay a Visit" to Gina Colvin

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Re: Louis Midgley Threatens to "Pay a Visit" to Gina Colvin

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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:16 pm
Dr. Exiled wrote:So, what happens now? Is Midge going to try to break up the marriage because Dr. Colvin is no longer a latter-day saint? Midge mentions how Dr. McCluskey supposedly loves the Midge's essays and Dr. Colvin hates them. I'm sure he loves this point of contention between them.
I wouldn't take hubby at face value here. I'm assuming hubby is a solid, decent guy. He was put in a sorely uncomfortable position, where this weirdo with connections to folks in his own everyday world has put a mark on his wife. He had to deliver a stern message, that his wife really ain't interested. I honestly wouldn't even put money hubby's word's being "hate", although it's possible; but I suspect Midgley is exaggerating even that.

I certainly don't believe hubby said that he "loves" Midgley's essays. He may have said positive things about them, but mostly for the sake of being diplomatic. Honestly, the most unbelievable of the package of claims being made here, is that hubby was even familiar with Midgley's essays. He might have glanced through one or two at his wife's urging if he'd ever come up on conversation because of his criticisms of her work but I'm sorry, if there's more than about 8 people on this planet who are familiar enough with Midgley's Maori-related Mopologetics to have a strong opinion it would be a miracle.
These are great points. I wouldn't put it past Midge to exaggerate each and every detail so as to make the meeting not look so creepy. Incidentally, there are a couple of meetinghouses the Midgley group could have gone to that are closer to where their ship docked in Lyttleton, if church was the only point of getting off of the ship.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/map ... 5850-01-01

I am assuming Dr. McCluskey goes to the ward closest to the University of Canterbury, a little further away than the Avon River ward which is closer. However, the mission was always to try and meet his prey.
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Re: Louis Midgley Threatens to "Pay a Visit" to Gina Colvin

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I went back to Dr. Scratch's OP for this thread to remind myself where all of this started. I noticed something I hadn't before. If you check Dr. Colvin's original blog entry:

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/kiwimormo ... qus_thread

Where Mr. Midgely shows up to "flush" Gina out from hiding and confront her, several random folks showed up to support Dr. Colvin, and guess who down-voted every single well-wishing post? You guessed it. Including this one:
I’m sad to see you go Gina. I have really enjoyed your perspective and your advocacy, even though I disagree along some lines. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is worse off without you in. God bless and may you continue to find joy in the service you you give. I respect you and will miss your influence inside the Church.
Here's somebody neutral, who values Dr. Colvin's contribution to the Church but doesn't really agree with her but wishes her well, and Midgley even down-votes that!

And it gets worse, because he up-votes every negative comment toward her including this one:
Your courage seems like artifice. Move on. You don't have what it takes to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ. I get it. Your name is Legion. There's a million of you.
^^^^^upvoted by Louis Midgley.

Maybe someone ought to remind Dr. Peterson and Kiwi57 the kind of "rubbish" that their buddy Lou upvoted against Dr. Colvin.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.

LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
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How about this one for a hypocritical up vote by the Professor on a post that was two and a half years ago!

Any objection that he has to using an identity that is not in real life is empty BS on his part.

http://disq.us/p/1y0brer
Soror Luctia Nicola Petty • 2 years ago • edited
A pseudonym is my prerogative on the internet, Nicola. It's self preservation; I have no desire to be doxxed or have the vitriol of Gina's minions unleashed on me or people I care about, as has happened before. If that is cowardly, so be it. I'm sure if you try hard enough you could figure out who I am, because much of what I said applies to you as well: I know you, and used to admire you too, before you decided you knew better than everyone else, including God.

For the record, I said nothing I wouldn't say to Gina (or your) face, I just picked this as my medium because others (like you) need to hear it too. If calling out the truth is un-loving, I'm disappointed you think that to be loving is to agree with everything someone else says. Isn't that the mentality you and Gina are trying to escape from in the church??
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Louis Midgley Dr. Exiled 2 hours ago

Self-Exiled: who exactly was this supposed relative of mine? What was his name? Where exactly did he live? And in what Ward and Stake? And what exactly was this essay he sent to Dialogue? And exactly when did this happen? This is the very first time I have ever once heard of any such Midgley relative? And one who seems to have known me, but not one I ever knew.
If there actually was such a Midgley, which I very much doubt, and he submitted something to Dialogue, then Gene England (or some subsequent editor) turned it down. And this person might have assumed that I had been involved. And that I also contacted his Stake President.

I have never once contacted a Stake President about anyone.

http://disq.us/p/2a5v6yt
But of course we believe you, Midgley. Of course we do.
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Lemmie wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:00 pm

Louis Midgley Dr. Exiled 2 hours ago

Self-Exiled: who exactly was this supposed relative of mine? What was his name? Where exactly did he live? And in what Ward and Stake? And what exactly was this essay he sent to Dialogue? And exactly when did this happen? This is the very first time I have ever once heard of any such Midgley relative? And one who seems to have known me, but not one I ever knew.
If there actually was such a Midgley, which I very much doubt, and he submitted something to Dialogue, then Gene England (or some subsequent editor) turned it down. And this person might have assumed that I had been involved. And that I also contacted his Stake President.

I have never once contacted a Stake President about anyone.

http://disq.us/p/2a5v6yt
But of course we believe you, Midgley. Of course we do.
Midge claims "I have never once contacted a Stake President about anyone."

I have a hard time believing that one as well.
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:25 pm
Lemmie wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:00 pm

But of course we believe you, Midgley. Of course we do.
Midge claims "I have never once contacted a Stake President about anyone."

I have a hard time believing that one as well.
Midgley has that childish “I’m going to go tell teacher” air about him.

Technically he may be right he didn’t contact a stake president. But I’m sure he has contacted church authorities about individuals multiple times.
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My accusation was always what Midgley's relative said to me what had happened to him and how it was a violation of free speech for the SP/Bishop to get involved and stop the publication. Perhaps Midge doesn't remember it because he was so used to doing that sort of thing? Anyway, I heard what I heard.
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It looks like whinin’ Lou Midgley and his handler Daniel “co-dependent” Peterson have a huge blindspot when it comes to their bullyin’ behavior:

“Louis Midgley > TimErnst

TimErnst has it exactly right. This explains why Dan tolerates gemli posting his weird atheist dogma. gemli is not angry or insulting. gemli never makes up stories about people, though he fabricates a bizarre alternative intellectual history out of thin air. Instead, he just does his dogmatic atheist thing, and thereby illustrates how and why scientism is wrong. No one is hoping that Dan will give gemli the boot. One reason is that gemli never engages in personal attacks.”

Hypocrisy thy name is Lyin’ Lou!

“DanielPeterson > Louis Midgley

Exactly.”

They’re totally the victims. :rolling eyes so hard I just backflipped:

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Midgley has a well-established reputation for engaging in inappropriate behavior, and then, after he is caught, obfuscating repeatedly to try to cover up or minimize the negative impact of his actions. Even though I have read about many other incidents, watching how it played out in real time this last few months, in the case of his stalking Colvin, as well as harassing commenters such as Dr. LOD, Shades, and Exiled was pretty horrifying.

An actual person behaving that badly in the name of his religion, who then touts himself as having a “charmed life” while mocking and gossiping about anyone who disagrees with him is just repulsive.
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Lyin' Lounatic Midgley continues his "war" (his words, not mine) on Colvin:

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4979311282

"... And now Joanna Brooks and Gina Colvin want to decolonize my own faith, and hence seem determined to transform and deconstruct my own world(s).

So I have discovered that there are all kinds of different "worlds" out that that are at war with each other. And there are various sorts of armies that struggle for control of our souls, even or especially when they deny, like gemli, that any human can possibly have a soul, or that there is any possible meaning in anything, except their denial that there is any meaning other than our very own tenuous grasp of those swerving atoms about which Lucretius wrote many years ago in his didactic poem on the nature of things."

What a psychologically fascinating post. The curious reader will note that Midgley outs himself as a sort-of-solipsist and "war" monger. This goes a long way toward explaining why he felt the need to travel to New Zealand and wage "war" against Gina Colvin. One should also note he continues to call out (you'll have to click on the link to read the rest of his screed) gemli who has now been absent from Dowsin' Dan Peterson's vanity blog for four days.

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