Supreme Court: Trump's Taxes are Fair Game

[_EAllusion]

Ajax has a childish understanding of the issue, and so thinks that usurpation of Native American sovereignty is something that happened in the deep, fuzzy past rather than an ongoing issue. He also only respects power when it is people he likes wielding it. Might makes right if and only if the side he has chosen has the might.

That the Supreme Court ruled that roughly half of the state of Oklahoma, including most of Tulsa, is reservation land is going to have significant legal consequences there and elsewhere.

[_subgenius]

... is going to have significant legal consequences there and elsewhere.

bet.

[_EAllusion]

... is going to have significant legal consequences there and elsewhere.

bet.

What do you want to bet?

It overturned a conviction of the type that affects thousands of other people. Is the game here that no matter how significant the consequence, you just declare it not significant?

[_subgenius]

What do you want to bet?

It overturned a conviction of the type that affects thousands of other people. Is the game here that no matter how significant the consequence, you just declare it not significant?

Before we set terms, let us first acknowledge your erroneous interpretation. My post mentioned a significant "point" about the OP and you would extrapolate that as an assertion of consequences - for which I did not make. But now you would prop up a charge of hypocrisy in order to give credence to your unsupported opinion, er, prophecy for consequences.
Notwithstanding the white tears or your armchair legal prognostications, I fail to see a valid argument for any "significant legal consequence there and elsewhere".
ergo, the simple post reply of -"bet", intended in the contrary.

[_ajax18]

The implications for this one are very large. It's the biggest legal victory for Native Americans in the lifetime of anyone posting here.

Will the federal government reimburse US citizen land owners for their property?

Do the Indians pay property taxes on reservation land? Do they collect social security or other taxpayer funded benefits?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Googled and literally within seconds got this answer: ALL Native Americans are subject to federal income taxes but, because of the states' inability to tax American Indians within reservation boundaries, individual Native Americans who live there do not pay state income taxes.

- Doc

[_ajax18]

Googled and literally within seconds got this answer: ALL Native Americans are subject to federal income taxes but, because of the states' inability to tax American Indians within reservation boundaries, individual Native Americans who live there do not pay state income taxes.

- Doc

What about the second part? Are they eligible for state taxpayer funded benefits?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Do you want me to google that for you? It'd take literally a few dozen seconds to do. Let me know.

- Doc

[_ajax18]

It is also important to understand that the lack of available jobs on the reservations fuel joblessness at 35% to 85% (varies by reservation) and that 29% of employed Native Americans live below poverty level. It is not for lack of exuberance or effort on the part of Native Americans that these conditions exist. Many of the hardest working folks we know are Native American. Rather, outside business is reluctant to invest in small, remote, and rugged reservation communities and doing so is complex given that tribal land is held in trust for the tribes but owned by the federal government, and all businesses and investors must comply with federal, state and tribal regulations. As a result, most jobs on the reservations are tribal, government, or state jobs with restrictive and historic budget cuts that limit opportunities for growth.

Perhaps it's rulings like this one that makes businesses hesitant to invest in reservations. Why risk buying land or build a property when there is a good chance the US government may turn around and say you never owned this and it actually belongs to the Indians. it doesn't matter who paid for it.

[_ajax18]

Do you want me to google that for you? It'd take literally a few dozen seconds to do. Let me know.

- Doc

No I probably wouldn't believe you anyway.

I remember going through a similar question session about Puerto Ricans voting in presidential elections, what their taxation liabilities were and what they were eligible to collect. It's a simple question but it opens up a swamp of political hocus pocus that might take a lifetime to slog through.