Frontline Doctor Dispels Covid Fear

[_Gunnar]

For the sake of your kids, I hope that someday you’ll value intellect and self-respect more than political tribalism and stubbornness. One can hope, anyway.

And/or come to the realization that there is nothing clever or admirable about being an incorrigible troll who adds nothing of real substance to the conversation.

[_Some Schmo]

Im not stupid.

Well, you haven’t mastered basic punctuation. So there’s that.

But you’re also posting images that demonstrate that you have no understanding of basic vaccine testing or what you’d be wearing a mask for.

The first is forgivable, but now that you’re aware of your ignorance on the matter, you have no choice but to educate yourself, or be called stupid in the face of future postings like your previous one.

As for the function of masks - there has been enough said about that over the past 6 months and yet you still don’t understand. This would prove your stupidity.

For the sake of your kids, I hope that someday you’ll value intellect and self-respect more than political tribalism and stubbornness. One can hope, anyway.

There's no way to truly know how smart or stupid a person really is, whether on the internet or not. All we have to go on are writing and/or speaking samples.

I think it's fair to say that when you suggest someone is an idiot (or whatever), you're doing it on the basis of the preceding sample. You're not really claiming they are a certifiable moron; you're just saying the last sample was evidence in favor of the proposition.

Canpakes' analysis highlighted some compelling samples, bringing them into evidence.

[_subgenius]

TLDNR, but suffice it to say, you cannot rely on randomized double-blind trials because they've all proven this drugs is useless against COVID. Maintaining this myth just proves you're an idiot who was never interested in fact

Yes, you speaking about facts and knowing is such a convincing argument given your constant abandoning of both on all topics mature, adult, and/or competent.
"There are in fact overall more than 200 trials currently underway around the world on its impact either as a prophylactic or treatment for Covid-19"...
The Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit (MORU) is conducting mass clinical trials and has enrolled 40,000 frontline workers in Europe, Africa, Asia and South America, giving participants either chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine or a placebo.

Professor Sir Nick White, who's leading the trial, said: "Most experts agree there is a much better chance of benefit in prevention than treatment."

The only myth around here is quickly becoming the one where you do not actually live every day of your life as TL:DR.....TL:DR indeed.

[_subgenius]

I would bet a good amount of money that subgenius didn’t read his friend and colleague’s post in its entirety.

Sure I did, but what you did not read was me taking a an uninformed stance on the issue, like most of your fellow posters have chosen to do.

That said it should be noted in ref to the OP that, “Dr. Erickson appeared with Dr. Artin Massihi, co-owner of Accelerated Urgent Care, in another viral video called "Plandemic," which is filled with conspiracy theories about the coronavirus pandemic. In it, they claimed that stay-at-home orders and face masks are not necessary because they weaken your immune system. The doctors made similar assertions in an April press conference and on Fox News.

While you make a truly credible fallacy in reasoning here...its still just a fallacy and does not refute the information presented. Or is there another take away other than "they did this other video that was weird, so whatever" ?

In a joint statement, the American College of Emergency Physicians and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine condemned Erickson and Massihi’s claims, saying that they "strongly advise against using any statements of Drs. Erickson and Massihi as a basis for policy and decision making."”

It’s no surprise that Xanax and his bumpkin board buddies simply scan something quickly and then fart out a post with no ability to engage on the subject matter outside of some additional dumb ____ drive-by comments and memes.

- Doc

I am sure your appeal to authority fallacy as some sort of special place in your heart - because the AAEM and the ACEP sound so official, especially since one was formed in 1993 and has chosen the following picture of their president to display:

See how that works? The real joy in using logical fallacies is that you readily dismiss any person's argument without the burden of actually dealing with the facts or substance of their argument (who has time for that amiright?...just use Icarus's TL:DR strategy and let MSNBC tell you what to think).
Point being, there is no real "teeth" behind your celebrity endorsements.'''

Now contrast with the AMA, an organization founded in 1847 that issued a statement on June 23 2020 as follows:
"The American Medical Association, American Pharmacists Association, and American Society of Health-System Pharmacists appreciates the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA’s) continuing efforts to review and advise the nation on the safe and effective use of hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, and other medications to prevent and treat coronavirus. We recognize the body of evidence for addressing the COVID-19 global pandemic is evolving rapidly, requiring vigilant yet timely decision making."

Reads like they have real doctors and real adults in their group that are not so overt in their political posturing.

Like how their statement from April reads:
"The review identifies remdesivir, an antiviral drug first used to treat Ebola, as “the most promising therapy,” but cautions that it has not yet been approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

Several trials are in progress, however, including a National Institutes of Health (NIH) sponsored randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial that will shed light on the effectiveness of remdesivir compared with supportive care.

Also, the drug oseltamivir “has not been shown to have efficacy,” while corticosteroids “are currently not recommended,” the researchers noted. The effect of angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE2) inhibitors or angiotensin receptor blockers on COVID-19 is unclear, but patients with COVID-19 who are already taking these medications should continue to do so.

“Conflicting in vitro data exist to determine if these agents have a detrimental or protective effect in patients with COVID19,” the researchers wrote. “Pending further research, clinical societies and practice guidelines are recommending continuing therapy for patients already taking one of these agents.”

The authors cited chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine “long-standing history” for the prevention and treatment of malaria and the treatment of chronic inflammatory diseases. But they noted that a Chinese study showing chloroquine’s success in treating COVID-19 has not been presented for validation or published for peer review and a French study showing hydroxychloroquine’s promise “had several major limitations.”

They added, however, that NIH studies are in the works to examine the effectiveness of chloroquine prophylaxis in health care workers and hydroxychloroquine prophylaxis for persons who had high-risk exposures to COVID-19.

The review also summarizes the existing evidence on the effectiveness of using “convalescent plasma” or “hyperimmune immunoglobulins” from patients who have recovered from COVID-19."

But don't let all this sciency stuff get in the way of a good TL:DR judgment call - light thy hair on fire, call KG (or Icarus), and let loose spittle in the streets - white guys to the rescue!!!

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

“but what you did not read was me taking a an uninformed stance on the issue”

Oh, it was pretty obvious you’re uninformed. I don’t think you understand what you shared, and that’s why you’re not sourcing it. Because it’s BS.

- Doc

[_canpakes]

Now contrast with the AMA, an organization founded in 1847 that issued a statement on June 23 2020 as follows:

"The American Medical Association, American Pharmacists Association, and American Society of Health-System Pharmacists appreciates the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA’s) continuing efforts to review and advise the nation on the safe and effective use of hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, and other medications to prevent and treat coronavirus. We recognize the body of evidence for addressing the COVID-19 global pandemic is evolving rapidly, requiring vigilant yet timely decision making."

Reads like they have real doctors and real adults in their group that are not so overt in their political posturing.

Not that this would be surprising, but you seem to have edited out the other half of their statement. Here, let me add it back in for you:

“We emphasize that the FDA's recent announcement to cancel the emergency use authorizations for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for certain hospitalized patients with COVID-19 does not apply to other evidence-based uses of these medications for conditions such as rheumatoid arthritis and lupus. Our organizations continue to advocate for medication-use policies that ensure patients who need hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine do not face unintended barriers to evidence-based care.

We encourage patients and healthcare providers to consult the FDA's Frequently Asked Questions on the Revocation of the EUA for Hydroxychloroquine and Chloroquine Phosphate, and COVID-19 related information and resources available from our three organizations.”

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release ... 82292.html

https://www.fda.gov/media/138946/download