Physics and Biology vs. Politics

The Off-Topic forum for anything non-LDS related, such as sports or politics. Rated PG through PG-13.
_ajax18
_Emeritus
Posts: 6914
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:56 am

Re: Physics and Biology vs. Politics

Post by _ajax18 »

Even so, did we need to kill the economy to stop this or was there another way such as quarantining those with other health issues and the elderly while the rest of us continued on?
Well if you can save 0.04% of the elderly population from dying a a year or two earlier that's definitely worth putting the world into a global recession or even depression. Damn selfish people trying to go to work and earn money. The stimulus check should be plenty.

Right now it's legal to loot burn a shop down. But it's illegal to open up shop and try to work for a living. This is a very pivotal moment in our lives. The far left is absolutely crazy and incredibly dangerous.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
_Gunnar
_Emeritus
Posts: 6315
Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:17 am

Re: Physics and Biology vs. Politics

Post by _Gunnar »

ajax18 wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:10 am
The far left is absolutely crazy and incredibly dangerous.
NO! :mad: Given the incontrovertible and often demonstrated fact that no leader on earth (with the possible exception of Brazil's Bolsonaro, a virtual Trump clone) has bungled the pandemic response worse than Trump, which even you have not even attempted to refute, few, if any, are crazier or more dangerous to the world, let alone our own country, than Donald J. Trump!

If the Trump administration had handled the coronavirus with the same competence and diligence most other nations (including some 3rd world countries) have shown, we would probably have had far fewer fatalities and, like them, now be much farther on the way to restoring near normalcy.
Last edited by Guest on Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:05 am, edited 1 time in total.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.

“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
_moksha
_Emeritus
Posts: 22508
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:42 pm

Re: Physics and Biology vs. Politics

Post by _moksha »

subgenius wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:39 am
The "science" on COVID-19 has been inconsistent and to this day has been understandably "evolving".
Good point. Trump said COVID-19 would end in April. Besides, Republicans are fully protected by drinking bleach and they will be the first to tell you that there was no evolution.
Cry Heaven and let loose the Penguins of Peace
_Gunnar
_Emeritus
Posts: 6315
Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:17 am

Re: Physics and Biology vs. Politics

Post by _Gunnar »

moksha wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:01 am
subgenius wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:39 am
The "science" on COVID-19 has been inconsistent and to this day has been understandably "evolving".
Good point. Trump said COVID-19 would end in April. Besides, Republicans are fully protected by drinking bleach and they will be the first to tell you that there was no evolution.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.

“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
_Doctor CamNC4Me
_Emeritus
Posts: 21663
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:02 am

Re: Physics and Biology vs. Politics

Post by _Doctor CamNC4Me »

https://elemental.medium.com/a-supercom ... cb8eba9d63

"In this sense, Covid-19 is like a burglar who slips in your unlocked second-floor window and starts to ransack your house. Once inside, though, they don’t just take your stuff — they also throw open all your doors and windows so their accomplices can rush in and help pillage more efficiently."

I strongly recommend reading the 8-min-to-read article. Also, take your vitamin D.

- Doc
_Doctor CamNC4Me
_Emeritus
Posts: 21663
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:02 am

Re: Physics and Biology vs. Politics

Post by _Doctor CamNC4Me »

Also, this scene from Avenue 5 seems relevant.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=you ... kXaeucDYHo

I have no doubt half the electorate would throw themselves out an airlock if a Democrat told them not to do it.

- Doc
_Themis
_Emeritus
Posts: 13426
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:43 pm

Re: Physics and Biology vs. Politics

Post by _Themis »

Dr Exiled wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:34 pm
The right is touting the new numbers from the cdc that show that only 6% of covid-19 deaths are caused solely by covid-19.
Don't know if the 6% number is accurate, but caused solely by covid 19 just means no other underlying health problems that contributed to a person's death. All the other ones mean that other factors contributed to their death, but had they not had covid 19 they would not likely have died.
42
_Themis
_Emeritus
Posts: 13426
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:43 pm

Re: Physics and Biology vs. Politics

Post by _Themis »

ajax18 wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:10 am
Well if you can save 0.04% of the elderly population from dying a a year or two earlier that's definitely worth putting the world into a global recession or even depression.
Recession was inevitable even if they didn't have restrictions. Restrictions some of those evil Republicans instituted. Dangerous virus's have a tendency to change behavior of people. More so as the number of infected grows. If the government does a good job of controlling the spread as we see in many countries, citizens feel more comfortable getting back to a more normal routine. This virus is especially dangerous to the elderly, but also is killing many who are not old, and can have lasting health complications to many others. That is a long term cost to society.
Damn selfish people trying to go to work and earn money.
Not as selfish as those who endanger the lives of others like friends and family.
The far left is absolutely crazy and incredibly dangerous.
Not as dangerous as Donald Trump and those who support him. Instead of working to balance the budget he increased the deficit by a lot making the US less prepared for national emergencies. He got rid of a pandemic team just because it was created by Obama and promoted behaviors that have probably cost the lives of tens of thousands of Americans. Trump is a danger to you economically and to your security. Instead of working to bring people together and calm the violence he actively promotes it. The US needs someone else who can make America great again after almost 4 years of darkness.
42
_Gunnar
_Emeritus
Posts: 6315
Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:17 am

Re: Physics and Biology vs. Politics

Post by _Gunnar »

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:26 am
I strongly recommend reading the 8-min-to-read article. Also, take your vitamin D.

- Doc
Thanks for bringing that article to our attention, Doc. It is very informative. A lot of the other articles referred to by that site are also worthwhile reading.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.

“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
_Gunnar
_Emeritus
Posts: 6315
Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:17 am

Re: Physics and Biology vs. Politics

Post by _Gunnar »

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:07 am
Also, this scene from Avenue 5 seems relevant.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=you ... kXaeucDYHo

I have no doubt half the electorate would throw themselves out an airlock if a Democrat told them not to do it.

- Doc
That is a very apt analogy! It applies almost equally well to those who deny the realities of human caused climate change.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.

“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
Post Reply