The real Breonna Taylor story

[_Res Ipsa]

Yep, that’s quite a straw man. Because criticizing systemic racism in law enforcement is identical to murdering LEOs.

[_ajax18]

Res Ipsa explain to me why Larynzo Johnson shooting one police officer in the stomach was not charged as an attempted murder but rather wanton endangerment?

[_Gunnar]

What kind of lunatic uses this tragedy to push the argument that we need a segregated society? Disgusting.

How does one get to the place where they think a segregated society is a good thing in the first place?

As I always say, if someone can't figure out the value of diversity, ask him why he doesn't marry his sister. If he thinks incest is a good idea, you have a clue why he has a problem working out the diversity question in his head.

Good question, and an apt analogy!

Promoting the idea of a segregated society consisting only of people of the same race, culture, and political views as one's own is problematic for reasons very similar to why promoting incest is problematic. A healthy society needs diversity to be truly sustainable. We need both liberals and conservatives who are willing to talk to each other and honestly and rationally consider each other's ideas, because neither conservatives nor liberals are infallible, and neither of them have a monopoly on either good or bad ideas.

Liberals are more likely to perceive real flaws in our current ideas and methods and seek out and promote new and better ways of doing things. They are also more likely to embrace new things simply because of their novelty, rather than because they are actually better.

Conservatives, on the other hand, are more likely to resist rejecting old, tried and true ideas that still work well, only because they are old. They are also more likely to cling to old, outdated ideas that no longer, or never did really work well, simply because they are old and familiar.

Conservatives alone = near certain eventual stagnation and decay.

Liberals alone = greater likelihood of progressing out of control and jumping off the rails.

We need both liberals and conservatives to check each other's extremes.

[_Some Schmo]

Conservatives alone = near certain eventual stagnation and decay.

Liberals alone = greater likelihood of progressing out of control and jumping off the rails.

We need both liberals and conservatives to check each other's extremes.

Yes sir. Diversity leads to balance.

That is, of course, if everyone decides to join the conversation. Some people aren't interested in conversation, and just want to prevaricate loudly over everyone else, because they know they can't participate in a true exchange of ideas without embarrassing themselves. The irony is that they end up looking far worse.

It's childish thinking. Stunted growth. Blunt force trauma to the head. Whatever.

[_ajax18]

We need both liberals and conservatives to check each other's extremes.

I'll give you credit that you may actually want honest conversation. But most really don't want that. Diversity of point of view from conservatives is usually not welcome whether it's a college campus, racial sensitivity training, or congressional debate etc.

[Alf'Omega]

It's kind of surprising to me that people have actually been brainwashed to think homogeneity is a good thing. I've actually heard people question the value of diversity, like they seriously don't get it. I think incest increasing the odds of birth defects and such is nature's way of telling us to diversify.

But really, how hard is it to come up with examples of things we say or instances in life that suggest diversity is superior?

- Two heads are better than one
- Let's brainstorm together
- Synergy
- We need to diversify your portfolio
- How many winning baseball teams have a roster of all pitchers?
- Should a law firm have all legal aids but no lawyers?
- (I could go on and on in various professions, hobbies... hell, pretty much any activity. Even masturbation).

Seriously, how hard is it to understand that more sources means more assets from which to draw leading to better outcomes?

ETA: I forgot an important one on the list:

- Don't fu-ck your relatives

[_Some Schmo]

But most really don't want that. Diversity of point of view from conservatives is usually not welcome whether it's a college campus, racial sensitivity training, or congressional debate etc.

You really need to stop confusing conservatism with lying.

I welcome all points of view, but I draw the line at obvious bullsh-it.

[_Gunnar]

That is, of course, if everyone decides to join the conversation. Some people aren't interested in conversation, and just want to prevaricate loudly over everyone else, because they know they can't participate in a true exchange of ideas without embarrassing themselves. The irony is that they end up looking far worse.

It's childish thinking. Stunted growth. Blunt force trauma to the head. Whatever.

A prime example of that was Trump's performance in last night's debate. Trump's obviously primary goal was not honest debate, but shouting over everything Biden tried to say, and preventing him from getting a word in edgewise. He even tried to treat the moderator, Chris Wallace the same way.

[_Some Schmo]

That is, of course, if everyone decides to join the conversation. Some people aren't interested in conversation, and just want to prevaricate loudly over everyone else, because they know they can't participate in a true exchange of ideas without embarrassing themselves. The irony is that they end up looking far worse.

It's childish thinking. Stunted growth. Blunt force trauma to the head. Whatever.

A prime example of that was Trump's performance in last night's debate. Trump's obviously primary goal was not honest debate, but shouting over everything Biden tried to say, and preventing him from getting a word in edgewise. He even tried to treat the moderator, Chris Wallace the same way.

Absolutely. I was thinking of the debate last night when I wrote that, and was struck with how that has been the primary strategy growing in the GOP for several years now, and last night was that asshole strategy in its rawest form.

The party platform is hypocrisy, and the strategy is lying and cheating. Like I said, fu-cking stunted growth, adult children.

Today I was wondering whether Reagan type Republicans will ever return to prominence when they can't rely on their racist cohorts anymore. Seems to me that what it would take is for the GOP to at least act like they give a fu-ck about Americans again. I don't think they can bring themselves to do it in any serious way.

[_Themis]

Promoting the idea of a segregated society consisting only of people of the same race, culture, and political views as one's own is problematic for reasons very similar to why promoting incest is problematic. A healthy society needs diversity to be truly sustainable.

Not sure I agree. The problem is not diversity, but our attitude towards those who have different opinions, looks, etc. Societies can do quite well without having lots of people with different opinions, and in some cases they don't function well with too many different ideas on how to do things. Especially opinions that are really wrong. The world will do much better if the world is more homogeneous in regards to AGW being real and a problem that needs to be fixed now. Societies don't need to have lots of people from many different groups to succeed. We succeed by working together and getting along even though we may have a number of differences. The problem with Ajaxland is not that it would have little diversity, It is their attitudes and actions toward those who do not look like them, think like them, or do as they demand.