Four Hours at the Capitol: A Must Watch HBO Documentary

[Cultellus]

Data, yo.

https://acleddata.com/2021/05/25/a-year ... -movement/

From the link:



It’s interesting the study cites 11,000 events with “only” a 6% outbreak of violence. That’s 660 violent events with billions in property damage, injuries, and death. It doesn’t matter how many English national team football matches peacefully occur, it only takes a few times for hooligans appear before the country gains a reputation for hooliganism. Anyway, the study is worth the read if anyone wants to get their perspective.

- Doc

I read it. The summary was good enough. Its the same old thing told the same old way but with charts. The good news is that 95 percent of protests were okay in 2021, which compares to 94 percent in 2020, as you pointed out.

[Dr. Shades]

Suppose somebody brings a gun to a public mall and aims, fires, and misses an innocent shopper.

Are you saying that Kyle shot first?

[Kishkumen]

Well hell. There ya go. If you and people like you believe that someone at the capital was a lynching insurrectionist (even if they weren’t), then it only makes sense that people that are judged by you apply the same logic to you. People probably think you want to burn down the cities and loot the crap out of the country.

That really is the state of the state.

As long as we keep pretending that the summer of riots was just fun and wholesome, but that a grandma walking the rope line is a killer and insurrectionist, we can just keep on with the great divorce.

Except that is not what I said. The event was about overturning a lawful election to keep a wannabe authoritarian leader in place. Those who were there who did not understand that were in the wrong place. The minute I see Confederate flags and Nazi flags around me, I know I am in the wrong place. Both are anti-American symbols of governments that fought for evil ends. People make mistakes and people can be misled. I get that. But at some point, if they don’t learn the lesson, their mistakes will catch up with them.

No one is saying grandma is an armed insurrectionist. If grandma is snookered into attending an armed insurrectionist party, however, I hope grandson tries to get her out of there.

[Kishkumen]

Are you saying that Kyle shot first?

I don’t know why you think that narrow consideration is so important. There were people discharging firearms into the air. So, no, Kyle did not discharge his weapon first. He was the first to shoot at another person for the purpose of putting that person down.

[Gadianton]

Are you saying that Kyle shot first?

No

[Father Francis]

Are you saying that Kyle shot first?

No.

Does that even matter? The guy went there with clear intentions.

[Cultellus]

No.

Does that even matter? The guy went there with clear intentions.

Which guy? The guy with the gun? Which guy exactly?

Also, how TF would you know? Because someone on Twitter said so? I sure don’t know everyone’s “intentions.” You are a lucky witch.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

No.

Does that even matter? The guy went there with clear intentions.

What were his clear intentions?

- Doc

[Cultellus]

Are you saying that Kyle shot first?

I don’t know why you think that narrow consideration is so important. There were people discharging firearms into the air. So, no, Kyle did not discharge his weapon first. He was the first to shoot at another person for the purpose of putting that person down.

Oh boy. So the person who shot first was just making a peaceful gesture or something?

Firearms are always fired into the air. Christamighty. I am unaware of them working underwater. This is silly. No goddamn wonder people think the left is a bunch of idiot snowflakes with hurt feelings and an expertise in reading CNN and NPR tweets.

Bullets were flying before Kyle fired a shot. And they weren’t to say “howdy.” This would have all been better if Kyle had stayed home. And if dumbasses with guns weren’t firing them at a riot, looting and arson party.

[Kishkumen]

Oh boy. So the person who shot first was just making a peaceful gesture or something?

So, a person who shot into the sky deserves to be shot dead by Kyle Rittenhouse because he was not “making a peaceful gesture or something”?

We don’t know who was firing where for what, do we? Do you? I don’t. I have the information I have read in various reports. I do know that Kyle Rittenhouse killed two people, and as far as I am aware no one aimed a deadly firearm at him before he did that.

Firearms are always fired into the air. Christamighty. I am unaware of them working underwater. This is silly. No goddamn wonder people think the left is a bunch of idiot snowflakes with hurt feelings and an expertise in reading CNN and NPR tweets.

Boy is this trollicious. Pointed at the sky, Cult. Pointed up at the sky, as in not at Kyle Rittenhouse. You should be able to interpret this successfully without a lot of help, I hope. No need to twist words to make them seem stupid when most everyone, except maybe you?, knows what I meant.

Bullets were flying before Kyle fired a shot. And they weren’t to say “howdy.” This would have all been better if Kyle had stayed home. And if dumbasses with guns weren’t firing them at a riot, looting and arson party.

Flying where? At whom? Did Kyle see people shooting at him? If you know something about this, something specific, please do tell. All of your beating around the bush is not advancing anyone’s understanding of the situation. If you want to persuade us that the 17 year old kid who crossed state lines to appoint himself a security officer brandishing an AR-15 is just a reasonable kid doing reasonable things, you have a lot more work to do.

Thinking that he probably isn’t takes a lot less work because it is a lot less likely that he was just a reasonable kid doing reasonable things.