Can't We Do Something about All the Idiotic Sock Puppets?

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Re: Can't We Do Something about All the Idiotic Sock Puppets?

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:20 pm
I thought My Pillow Guy was funny at first, but suffered from over use. I can’t recall other specific examples - just a generalized member of having been entertained.
You know, this has made me reflect on my time here, and it occurs to me that the biggest laughs I've had reading this board were almost exclusively from people I've known here for a long time. I think a big component in that is my awareness of their posting history.

Cam and I, for example, have had our moments over the years, but I've been reading what he has to say for so long, I trust that he means what he says (unless I suspect he's joking). That builds a kind of currency so that suspicion doesn't get in the way of entertainment, and he has made me laugh many, many times.

I don't have to agree with everything someone says, but I have to at least believe they believe it. BS turns off my ability to laugh.
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Re: Can't We Do Something about All the Idiotic Sock Puppets?

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Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:10 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:28 am
Shades, in response to your question about sock puppets, I don’t despise them and, when used sparingly and cleverly, they can be pretty entertaining.
Can you give me an example? I'm trying to think of any sock puppets I thought were entertaining and coming up empty.
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Re: Can't We Do Something about All the Idiotic Sock Puppets?

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Bret Ripley wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:02 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:10 pm

Can you give me an example? I'm trying to think of any sock puppets I thought were entertaining and coming up empty.
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Re: Can't We Do Something about All the Idiotic Sock Puppets?

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Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:38 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:20 pm
I thought My Pillow Guy was funny at first, but suffered from over use. I can’t recall other specific examples - just a generalized member of having been entertained.
You know, this has made me reflect on my time here, and it occurs to me that the biggest laughs I've had reading this board were almost exclusively from people I've known here for a long time. I think a big component in that is my awareness of their posting history.

Cam and I, for example, have had our moments over the years, but I've been reading what he has to say for so long, I trust that he means what he says (unless I suspect he's joking). That builds a kind of currency so that suspicion doesn't get in the way of entertainment, and he has made me laugh many, many times.

I don't have to agree with everything someone says, but I have to at least believe they believe it. B.S. turns off my ability to laugh.
I think that makes sense. For whatever reason, when words strike me as funny, the person saying them plays a much less significant role. Brains. What can you do?
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Re: Can't We Do Something about All the Idiotic Sock Puppets?

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:20 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:10 pm

Can you give me an example? I'm trying to think of any sock puppets I thought were entertaining and coming up empty.
I thought My Pillow Guy was funny at first, but suffered from over use. I can’t recall other specific examples - just a generalized member of having been entertained.
Just so you know, I don't use sock puppets to entertain you. I use sock puppets to entertain me! I don't care if you find them funny because progressives rarely find anything funny. But trust me, I'm laughing the whole time I'm posting and at the end of the day that's all that matters.
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Re: Can't We Do Something about All the Idiotic Sock Puppets?

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:57 pm
The problem is that you and Mike are here to disrupt others' ability to speak. The sock puppets are just the current tool.
Yup. It would be nice if this pointless disruption was ... well, disrupted.
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Re: Can't We Do Something about All the Idiotic Sock Puppets?

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:57 pm

Offensive has nothing to do with it. The problem is that you and Mike are here to disrupt others' ability to speak. The sock puppets are just the current tool. If they are banned, you'll move on to something else to harass, annoy and disrupt. It's what you do.
I will never understand why people do this. I've known a few people in person that act this way. I've found that the best solution is not to give them attention. They are basically attention vampires. If you don't feed them they go away.
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Father Francis wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:33 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:57 pm

Offensive has nothing to do with it. The problem is that you and Mike are here to disrupt others' ability to speak. The sock puppets are just the current tool. If they are banned, you'll move on to something else to harass, annoy and disrupt. It's what you do.
I will never understand why people do this. I've known a few people in person that act this way. I've found that the best solution is not to give them attention. They are basically attention vampires. If you don't feed them they go away.
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Re: Can't We Do Something about All the Idiotic Sock Puppets?

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EVERYONE:

I have some basic philosophies regarding this board. Rather than list them all, here are the four that are relevant to this thread:

1. If someone comes here and insists on building a monument to his/her own inanity, why should I stop or prevent him/her from doing so?
2. What good is a Libertarian utopia if no one wants to live there?

Those two guiding principles can be mutually contradictory, so proper moderation is always a delicate balancing act.

3. Entertainment is the ultimate goal of this message board--even for new people, so as to avoid the formation of cliques.
4. When one person's entertainment degrades others' entertainment, we must play "Jeremy Bentham" and moderate according to what the greatest good is for the greatest number.

That, too, is a delicate balancing act.

But REGARDING THE ISSUES BROUGHT UP IN THIS THREAD, your voices have been heard. When I've been able to think straight, I have weighed and strongly considered the points you have made here. Here are my tentative conclusions, but before I start a new thread announcing my executive decisions, I'd like to see if any of you object or have compelling reasons why I shouldn't go ahead with this.

UPCOMING SHIFTS / RULE CHANGES:
  1. HARASSMENT: Everyone naturally considers being called out as "harassment." If we prevent newcomers from calling out old-timers, then FAIRness demands that we prevent old-timers from calling out old-timers, too. As I said before, if you want moderators to clamp down on what Atlanticmike and Cultellus dish out to us, are you willing to allow moderators to clamp down on what you dish out to Ajax18? Or do you want the freedom of speech to carry on as you have been? If the latter, then you must grant the two of them the same privilege, because it is IMPERATIVE that newcomers enjoy all the same rights and privileges that old-timers have so as to avoid the creation of an elite class such as what exists at the Mormon Dialogue & Discussion board or Recovery from Mormonism.

    NEVERTHELESS, we can safely curtail the sexual harassment that's been seen here of late. Therefore, from this point forward, any criticism or "calling out" that expressly identifies a poster's gender will be either moved to the Telestial or Spirit Prison forums or deleted from within the post, whatever the moderator feels is best to preserve context. "Pussy hats" are fair game, since those are physical objects that people wore whilst protesting, but comments such as "Your husband must be sick of you" or "Are you on your period?" will be moved or deleted because, like I said, they identify a person's gender (well, maybe not the "husband" thing anymore, but you get the idea). To summarize, NO MORE SEXUAL HARASSMENT WHATSOEVER in the Terrestrial or Spirit Paradise fora.
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  2. SOCK PUPPETS: I am now convinced that sock puppet accounts are far too often created for trolling purposes, mild or otherwise. Plus, they invite their creator to break or circumvent the rules, because a throwaway identity has no "dog in the fight." Therefore, NO MORE SOCK PUPPET CREATION FROM THIS POINT FORWARD. It wouldn't be FAIR to go ex-post-facto, so you may keep the sock puppets you already have, but as a gesture of good faith I respectfully request that you voluntarily relinquish your sock puppet accounts if at all possible. Please send me a private message telling me the sock-puppet accounts you're willing to relinquish and have me delete, as a good faith gesture, but this is NOT a rule and you are NOT required to comply. It's simply a respectful request is all. But all new sock puppet accounts beginning now, as of this posting, will be deleted.

    Sometimes people may need to create a new account because they mistakenly signed up under their real name or something. Therefore, should I set the board software to allow people to just change their username the same way they change avatars or signatures? Up until now I've had that option turned off, but perhaps that restriction encouraged sock puppet creations.
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  3. A CELESTIAL-STYLE OFF-TOPIC FORUM: You have persuaded me that we need a celestial-style "Spirit _____" forum. The problem is, such a place doesn't exist in the LDS pantheon, so there wouldn't be a snappy name for it. I'll create it, but what should we call it? I'm thinking something like [Super Spirit Paradise Forum], yes, with the brackets because it was invented by fiat.
So, what does everyone think of this? Will these changes meet our needs or make the board better for you? The first two items--No sexual harassment and no new sock puppets--are effective immediately and will be rescinded if everyone convinces me they should be. The last item--a celestial style off-topic forum--will be implemented when someone comes up with a good name for it.
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