Apologist Defends Fac 3, Figure 6 from the Archives
Following the Spirit
1842
March 4
Friday
Exhibeting the Book of Abraham. in the original. To Bro Reuben
Hadlock. so that he might take the size of the several plates
or cuts. & prepare the blocks for the Times & Seasons. & also
gave instruction concerning the arrangement of the writing
on the Large cut. illustrating the principles of Astronomy.
(in his office) with other general business
March 4
Friday
Exhibeting the Book of Abraham. in the original. To Bro Reuben
Hadlock. so that he might take the size of the several plates
or cuts. & prepare the blocks for the Times & Seasons. & also
gave instruction concerning the arrangement of the writing
on the Large cut. illustrating the principles of Astronomy.
(in his office) with other general business
Re: Apologist Defends Fac 3, Figure 6 from the Archives
From the Church Website:
Pillars of Heaven? These are canopic jars meant to contain the deceased's internal organs for his trip to the afterlife. I suppose calling them Pillars of Heaven is better than referring to the organ jars as fictitious gods that never existed in the Egyptian religion, but my goodness, there are real Egyptologists at the University of Utah who could set them straight on this misidentification.
They also verify the names of four idols (detail) and confirm the terminology for the “pillars of heaven” (bottom of facsimile).
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Re: Following the Spirit
Shulem wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:38 pm1842
March 4
Friday
Exhibeting the Book of Abraham. in the original. To Bro Reuben
Hadlock. so that he might take the size of the several plates
or cuts. & prepare the blocks for the Times & Seasons. & also
gave instruction concerning the arrangement of the writing
on the Large cut. illustrating the principles of Astronomy.
(in his office) with other general business
Nonetheless, the apologist says:
Royal wrote:Yes, the engraver took a part from elsewhere on the hypocephalus and used it to fill up the missing part.
But it was Joseph Smith himself who "exhibited the Book of Abraham in the original" (papyrus) and instructed Reuben Hedlock on how to arrange the Large cut (Facsimile No. 2) in order to prepare it for publication and fulfill the revelation given him from God which was to "take in hand the Editorial department of the Times and Seasons according to that manifestation. which Shall be given unto them by the Power of My Holy Spirit in the midst of their counsel Saith the Lord."
Thus the power manifested to Joseph Smith through the Spirit was WRONG!
CHECKMATE, you loose, Royal!
We (Vogel, Backyard professor, and Shulem) are ready for you and you won't get away with running the prophet Joseph Smith over with your bus without being called out for it. You sir, are responsible for running him over. You will be held accountable.
Signed,
Shulem
Greatest Book of Abraham critic to have ever lived. (So said, Doctor Scratch)
Re: Apologist Defends Fac 3, Figure 6 from the Archives
Moksha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:34 pmFrom the Church Website:Pillars of Heaven? These are canopic jars meant to contain the deceased's internal organs for his trip to the afterlife. I suppose calling them Pillars of Heaven is better than referring to the organ jars as fictitious gods that never existed in the Egyptian religion, but my goodness, there are real Egyptologists at the University of Utah who could set them straight on this misidentification.
They also verify the names of four idols (detail) and confirm the terminology for the “pillars of heaven” (bottom of facsimile).
Actually, Peterson is referring to Fig. 11 as the pillars of heaven, not the jars. The pillars are cut off from the picture although his explanation to that is given in parentheses as (bottom of facsimile).
For a correct interpretations of Fig. 11, please refer to:
here
Re: Apologist Defends Fac 3, Figure 6 from the Archives
Okay, what are the names of the idols?
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Re: Apologist Defends Fac 3, Figure 6 from the Archives
A FACSIMILE FROM THE BOOK OF BREATHING
NO. 1
EXPLANATION
Fig. 1. The Ba of Osirs.
Fig. 2. Osiris rising from the dead.
Fig. 3. Anubis the jackal-headed god assisting Osiris.
Fig. 4. The lion bed for resurrection through the blessing of Anubis, standing before the gods of Qebehsenuef, Duamutef, Hapi, Imsety, and Sobek.
Fig. 5. The god Qebehsenuef.
Fig. 6. The god Duamutef.
Fig. 7. The god Hapi.
Fig. 8. The god Imsety.
Fig. 9. The god Sobek.
Fig. 10. Libation stand with lotus, flowers, and jars.
Fig. 11. Designed to represent brick and stone walls, as built by the Egyptians.
Fig. 12. Nile river flowing from Upper Egypt down into Lower Egypt within the Delta and into the sea.
Re: Apologist Defends Fac 3, Figure 6 from the Archives
Do you get the impression that he is making a huge shift and breaking away from current scholarship much like Hauglid did?
Is he tired of the apologetic games, do you think?
Re: Apologist Defends Fac 3, Figure 6 from the Archives
Philo Sofee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:58 pmJoseph Smith said they come FROM the Book of Abraham, because they were LITERALLY cut FROM the Book of Breathings, which Jospeh Smith IDENTIFIED ***AS*** the Book of Abraham.
And other's testified of what Joseph Smith had testified and they believed the witness was of God and it was given them by the Holy Spirit.
Williams Ivan Appleby wrote:Today I paid Bro. Joseph a visit.... Viewed four mummies, one male and three females, brought from Ancient Thebes in Egypt, saw the Rolls of Papyrus, and the writing thereon, taken from off the bosom of the Male Mummy, being some of the writings of ancient Abraham and of Joseph, that was sold into Egypt. The writings are chiefly in the Egyptian language, with the exception of a little Hebrew I believe. They give a description of some of the scenes in Ancient Egypt, of their worship, their Idol Gods, etc. The writings are beautiful and plain; composed of red, and black ink. There is a perceptible difference between the writings. Joseph appears to have been the best scribe. There are also representations of men, beasts, Birds, Idols, and oxen attached to a kind of a Plough, and a female guiding it. Also the serpent when he beguiled Eve. He appears with two legs, erect in the form and appearance of man. But his head in the form and representing the Serpent with his forked tongue extended. There are likewise representations of an Altar erected, with a man bound and laid thereon, and a Priest with a knife in his hand, standing at the foot, with a dove over the person bound on the Altar with several Idol gods standing around it. A Celestial globe, with the planet Kolob or first creation of the supreme Being —a planet of light, which planet—makes a revolution once in a thousand years,—Also the Lord revealing the Grand key words of the Holy Priesthood, to Adam in the garden of Eden, as also to Seth, Noah, Melchizedek, Abraham, and to all whom the Priesthood was revealed. -Abraham also in the Court of Pharaoh sitting upon the King's throne reasoning upon Astronomy, with a crown upon his head, representing the Priesthood as emblematical of the grand Presidency in Heaven, with the scepter of Justice and Judgment in his hand. And King Pharaoh, standing behind him, together with a Prince—a principal waiter, and a black slave of the King. A Genealogy of the Mummies, and Epitaphs on their deaths etc. etc., are all distinctly represented on the Papyrus. Which is called the "Book of Abraham"
The male mummy was one of the ancient -Pharaoh's of Egypt, and a priest, as he is embalmed with his tongue extended, representing a speaker. The female were his wife and two daughters, as a part of the writing has been translated, and informs us who they were, also where writings it is, and when those mummies were embalmed, which is nearly four thousand years ago. There is also a vivid description given on the Papyrus, of the creation, far more as accurately and minutely, than the account given in the Bible. Likewise where the Idolatrous Priest "Elkenah" attempted to offer up Abraham as a sacrifice to their Idol gods, in Egypt (as represented by the Altar etc. before referred to). But was delivered by the interposition of Almighty power, representing the Dove over the Altar, where Abraham lies Bound, which broke the cords by which he was bound, tore down the Altar, and killed the Priest.
Re: Apologist Defends Fac 3, Figure 6 from the Archives
Here is a primer on the ancient Egyptian religion for young apologetic Saints to begin circumventing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvZxqD4e4iU&t=8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvZxqD4e4iU&t=8s
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Re: Apologist Defends Fac 3, Figure 6 from the Archives
Here is another short video on understanding Anubis and the role this canine God played in the Egyptian religion:Moksha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:39 pmHere is a primer on the ancient Egyptian religion for young apologetic Saints to begin supplanting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvZxqD4e4iU&t=8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aEMptLKwoc
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