Well, that's a trendy meme, but I think it is BS. I know why we're here today. We're here today because in 2016 two decades of FOX News demonization of Hillary Clinton paid off. The Comey letter sealed the deal for them and gave the GOP a razor thin win. Hillary didn't lose because of "arrogant thinking."
I never argued this, but you may very well have been correct. Give it time and find out. And I'm sure I'm right about the results of the GOP ever getting rid of Social Security. It would be political suicide. Most of them understand this too, which is why Trump and his Republicans never bothered to repeal Obamacare or replace it. They understood the political ramifications of throwing millions of people off of their health insurance plans.Do you know how many times I argued with fellow lefties in 2016 who justified not voting or voting third parties by saying similar things -- like Trump being elected would be the best thing ever for the left because it would show the country how bad the right is?
Not that I ever suggested this. What's wrong with you? You're going back to your quick-read-passive-aggressive responses again.Telling people that they're voting against their interest because they're stupid is not how you win elections.
I'm just stating the obvious facts about the current situation and you're acting like I'm preaching on some campaign trail. I also think you're pretty friggin naïve if you think you're ever going to turn states blue by flipping Trumpers. That is just a waste of time. The blind ignorance and unbridled hatred that drives these folks isn't something you're going to change with any kind of "discussion." Just look at how unmoved ajax and subgenius were for all those years, no matter how bad Trump was or what evidence there was against their views.
No, you need to get more people who aren't voting to vote. There was maybe a time when persuasion was possible, but not with Trumpers. We're in a different age now where fiction is reality to these people. They don't want to know what's true, they only want to hear about how their winning the culture wars that have been manufactured for them. And the opposition has been galvanized already, which is why they're willing to let their team get away with cheating. They're willing to play hardball, the Democrats aren't. But that needs to change. Stop pussy footing on the issues and damned tell the hard cold truth like it is. You think Trump came to power by "persuading" Democrats to vote Republican?? No, he rallied the base, which is in large part, ignorant white racists and they came out and supported him by the millions. Democrats need to focus on those who are likely to vote Democrat and get them hyped up the same way Trump did by using racism to rile up the racists. Who? Women. Why? Because what better reason to get riled up than to try winning your freedoms back? The best thing that could happen for the Dems is if the Supreme Court reverses gay rights and interracial marriage. Now you're talking an entirely different set of people who will be energized to vote, or should be.It's how you piss people off and galvanize the opposition. You have to persuade.
Honestly, has that ever worked for you? You can spend hours every day pounding your head against a brick wall with 100 Trumpers and you might flip 2 or 3 if you're really, really good. Meanwhile I can help register 100 random first time voters, regardless of their political views, and that will benefit the Left much more.You have to convince them that what Ds are going to do is better than what Rs are going to do
Again, you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. If we put a Stacey Abrams like effort into states where Republicans have vulnerable Senate seats, we could get this done easier than you think. If Georgia can be turned Blue for crying out loud, so can Florida.To even get started on what you're proposing, you've got to convince the voters to give the Ds two more seats than they have today. Telling them they're stupid isn't going to cut it.
Women know now how to vote in their best interests. The GOP just showed them better than any Democrat ever could what's not in their best interest. Their bodies are now properties of the state. They took for granted that Roe was secure. Now they're learning the hard way. Don't think for a second that only Democrat women are getting abortions. This the Supreme Court decision is more likely to flip female Trump voters than any amount of town hall wishful thinking. How could it not?And by the way, a man telling women what their bests interests are is probably the worst possible political strategy ever.
I predicted a few decades at least. Not sure that's "around the corner." I also predict the Democrat party will be gone or turned into something different by then.If demographics are the destiny you think they are, no radical changes are needed. Rescue is just around the corner...
And Trump didn't make Hispanic gains in every state, he just made a really huge gain in Florida where the Cuban population came out big time for him. They've typically been Republican because they believe the Right Wing BS about how Democrats are communists like Castro. Do you think Trump is gaining Hispanic voters everywhere because they truly believe he loves them?