KevinSim wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:48 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:58 pm
KS,
Can you flesh out the highlighted bit, because it appears to be a de facto contradiction.
- Doc
Doc, God for me is the forever preserver. If there is no forever preserver, then the human race will not last forever. That means there will be a last generation of the human race. That generation will consist of real people, with hopes and dreams like you and me, Doc. What is your conscientious obligation to the real people of that last generation? I think it is to make sure that generation never happens, which means we need to find out how to forever preserve, which means we need God.
I can’t understand how the conclusion logically follows from the premises. Suppose we assume that God the forever preserver of some good thing. Take a look at the new photos from the JWST. Given the vastness of the universe, what reason would we have to believe that homo sapiens are the only good thing that exists, let alone the one good thing that God has chosen to preserve?
If God exists and wants to preserve human life forever, what’s stopping him? More specifically, what specifically is it that I must do that would enable God to accomplish the stated goal? In essence, how is it that I hold the ultimate power over God?
If your God does not exist, then I think it becomes unnecessary to the the stated goal. I haven’t the faintest idea whether any given action I take would either bring about or hinder humanity existing forever. The best I could do is as suggested by Meadowchick: take the existence, health, and well being of the next generation into account in my own decision making. After I’m gone, continuance off the human race is in the hands of the living. No God necessary.
Finally, that we “need” your God says nothing about its existence. Likewise with anyone’s belief that such an entity exists, let alone necessarily exists.