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[doubtingthomas]

And of course, it's only sexist when men do it, right Marcus?

[DaveIsHere]

Bro, ya tryin' to hard

[Marcus]

of course you do. A subset of the online misogynist “manosphere” that includes Pick Up Artists and Men’s Rights Activists...https://www.adl.org/resources/backgroun ... -celibates
continuing...

Since when are dating coaches misogynist?

incels are known for their deep-seated pessimism and profound sense of grievance against women..

How is a pick up artist pessimistic?

One of the biggest issues in the PUA community is the way that the community as a whole encourages treating women. The Pick Up Community is based around the commodity model of sex – that women are the gatekeepers to sex while men have to bribe, supplicate, cajole, manipulate or otherwise convince them to grant men access.

Emphasis on “manipulate”.

There are three concepts that are common through most PUA schools of thought: Anti-Slut Defense, Last Minute Resistance and Buyer’s Remorse – and they’re all toxic as “F”. All three are based on the idea that women may want sex but they’re socially conditioned to pretend that they don’t for fear of appearing to be a slut.

Let that sink in for a moment: impressionable, socially inexperienced men being taught that what women say and what women want are two different things. It follows logically then that you should ignore what they say… and the community teaches tactics to do precisely that.https://www.doctornerdlove.com/trouble-pick-up-artists/

[DaveIsHere]

And of course, it's only sexist when men do it, right Marcus?

Lol

[honorentheos]

A lot of people here emotionally invested a lot in their own beliefs.

[doubtingthomas]

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(Dr. Nerdlove quotes from, The Trouble With Pick-Up Artists, available at the following link - https://www.doctornerdlove.com/trouble-pick-up-artists/ , and introduced in Marcus’s post of 6:14 PM. -cp-)

One of the biggest issues in the PUA community

You are stereotyping again.

socially inexperienced men

Oh my God! You are living in a bubble. The socially inexperienced men don't have any friends. If a socially inexperience guy wants to go out on a date, he'll have to use Tinder or a cold approach.

It's probably harder to make good friends than getting a date with a girl.

women may want sex but they’re socially conditioned to pretend that they don’t for fear of appearing to be a slut.

That's well-documented.

Lol

A female author is telling society to, "help young men"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/avivahwitt ... fd81bb4c0d

That's something that Marcus and many here will never accept.

[doubtingthomas]

"help young men"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/avivahwitt ... fd81bb4c0d

She talks about "loneliness and mental health challenges".

Edit to add: "It's been described as a 'silent epidemic': the number of lonely men in the UK and US is on the rise, and so are male suicides."
https://www.happiness.com/magazine/heal ... lling-men/. The undeniable fact is that there are a lot more lonely young men than lonely young women, I shared plenty of studies in the past to prove that.

"Men have fewer friends than ever, and it’s harming their health"
https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/23323 ... asculinity

[Marcus]

"help young men"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/avivahwitt ... fd81bb4c0d

She talks about "loneliness and mental health challenges" and argues that young men in their 20s are the "loneliest group of people".

No she doesn’t argue that young men are “the loneliest group of people.”

The loneliest group of people are not the old, as many people think, but the 20-something young.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/avivahwitt ... 96371f4c0d

her supporting link goes to an article that says this

Loneliness can strike at any age, but a new study finds that young adults are the loneliest Americans,

https://consumer.healthday.com/b-11-11- ... 48128.html

That’s young people.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

More about the author if anyone is interested:

https://www.thejc.com/family-and-educat ... 6934467987

- Doc

[doubtingthomas]

No she doesn’t argue that young men are “the loneliest group of people.”

What does all the research and data say? I shared plenty of studies and you still deny it.

The undeniable fact is that there are a lot more lonely young men than lonely young women.

"It's been described as a 'silent epidemic': the number of lonely men in the UK and US is on the rise, and so are male suicides."
https://www.happiness.com/magazine/heal ... lling-men/

More about the author if anyone is interested:

https://www.thejc.com/family-and-educat ... 6934467987

- Doc

Great article Doc! She's clearly a hardcore feminist.