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[huckelberry]

doubting thomas, If you can date a 20 year old is up to the 20 year old not the members of this message board.

[Res Ipsa]

This is supported by studies showing that 46% of sexual assault perpetrators are under 25, which could mean that women are safer with men over 30.

If 46% of sexual assault perpetrators are under 25, then that also means 54% of sexual assault perpetrators are 25 or OLDER. So by your very own reasoning, women are safer around men under age 25.

Those numbers really tell us nothing about risks to individual women. At a minimum, the rate of assault by men at each age would be needed. Less than 25 includes age 1, when the rate will be 0%. Similarly, 25 and older has a long tail in which the rate is likely very low.

But even that may not be useful if a woman's primary concern in dating is not being assaulted. There may be other factors that have a stronger correlation than age. One of them could be the relative ages of the partners. Another could be the selection of partners with serious personality disorders (narcissism, borderline, anti-social). There are so many potential variables that could correlate with sexual assault, that obsession with one -- age of the male partner -- makes no sense.

[Imwashingmypirate]

This is supported by studies showing that 46% of sexual assault perpetrators are under 25, which could mean that women are safer with men over 30.

If 46% of sexual assault perpetrators are under 25, then that also means 54% of sexual assault perpetrators are 25 or OLDER. So by your very own reasoning, women are safer around men under age 25.

Touché

[Imwashingmypirate]

I feel like I'm in an alternate universe in this thread.

Your instincts are spot on.

It's best to see the general discussion as a smoke screen for the more specific question: would you be ok with doubtingthomas dating your daughter at whatever age he is currently claiming a guy of some fluctuating age should be able to date? Because that's the reality behind the distortion you perceived. The answer isn't a matter of peoples age differences. It's the way DT treats the entire topic.

Did you go to therapy doubting Thomas?

[Some Schmo]

If 46% of sexual assault perpetrators are under 25, then that also means 54% of sexual assault perpetrators are 25 or OLDER. So by your very own reasoning, women are safer around men under age 25.

Touché

No, that's not how the numbers work, unless you could also say the 46% of men are under 25. If the pool of men under 25 is lower than 46% of the total population of men, that increases the chances that any given man under 25 will commit sexual assault, because that means there are fewer men contributing to that percentage of sexual assaults. In other words, if more assaults are committed by a smaller pool of men, the number of assaults committed is higher per person.

It's easy to lie with statistics, as has been pointed out many times.

[Some Schmo]

It might be easier to illustrate my point with simple numbers.

Lets say there are 1000 men in the world. 70% (or 700 men) are 25 or older, and 30% (300 men) are younger.

Let's next say that from these 1000 men, 100 assaults were committed, 46% under 25, the rest are over.

That means that 300 men committed 46 of the assaults, while 700 men committed the other 54 assaults.

That means the 300 men under 25 had .153 assaults per person, whereas the 700 men 25 and older had .077 assaults per person.

So in this scenario, men under 25 are committing assault more often. I'm not sure what the exact population percentages actually are, but unless they are a perfect match statistically with the breakdown of assaults, we don't know exactly who's more dangerous from the assault statistics alone.

[honorentheos]

In India. Just in case that part of the "study" is missed. You know, where public gang rapes are reported with alarming frequency.

I really do not know why folks engage DT as if his cited references were more than tenuously connected to his posts.

[Doctor Steuss]

Thomas: A couple of points.

1) You did not read the article you referrence.

2) Perusing the abstract, it's pretty clear your linked article doesn't say what you suggest that it does.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose...

[Morley]

Thomas, you don’t care about how society is judging older men dating younger women. Plenty of young women date old men—just ask Leonardo DiCaprio.

You’re mostly trying to come up an explanation of why you can’t get a younger woman to date your wrinkled, old, white ass. It can’t just be chance. It can’t be because of something unappealing about you, personally. It can’t be that your expectations are skewed. You are obviously rich, handsome, intelligent, educated, and personable. The only possible explanation is that something’s systemically wrong with society (cue ominous organ music): Prejudice against older carriers of the Y chromosome.

Maybe use the google to search for more studies that you neither read nor comprehend.

[doubtingthomas]

There are so many potential variables that could correlate with sexual assault, that obsession with one -- age of the male partner -- makes no sense.

You are absolutely right, so I wonder why society is obsessed with telling young women to avoid older men. I see it in real life and I see it online too. It's working, a rapidly growing number of young women are avoiding older men.

"Older Men who date Younger Women are Predators"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWtJVy058Hs

"Why men in their 30s prey on younger girls"
https://www.tiktok.com/@boricua.gringa/ ... 9376044334

"Men Who Date Much Younger Women ... Look Like Pedophiles"
https://medium.com/heart-affairs/dear-m ... 1a59336fdc

Having an obsession with excusing the objectification of younger women, OTOH...

Men under 25 tend to objectify women more and are more likely to watch pornography, according to scientific studies.

"Frequency of pornography use decreased with age."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 9521006287

Thomas, you don’t care about how society is judging older men dating younger women. Plenty of young women date old men—just ask Leonardo DiCaprio.

That was more than two years ago, he stopped dating women under 25 because of all the backlash.

"Leonardo DiCaprio is nearly 50 and dating teenage girls. I’m sorry, but a 50 year old man that dates teenagers is a predator. Being a celebrity doesn’t exempt him from being a creep."

https://Twitter.com/SamanthaTaghoy/stat ... 84?lang=en