Trump Bombed Iranian Nuclear Site Fordo Today. Are We in WW 3?

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Re: Trump Bombed Iranian Nuclear Site Fordo Today. Are We in WW 3?

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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:07 am
So you still believe we're now in WWW III with Iran as Cam predicted?
Not yet, but the probability of it happening is higher than it was before Trump's actions. One thing is for sure, though, Iran's leaders have only become more determined than ever before to acquire nuclear weapons. And they might not necessarily have to develop them on their own as several nations who already have them are now considering giving some of theirs to Iran.
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Gadianton wrote:
Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:35 pm
That's very interesting. I've updated my opinion. I incorrectly thought that Gabbard had a very recent statement that Trump was contradicting, which doesn't seem to be the case. The more likely scenario is that the intelligence was in line with her comments and she could run with it. It also appears I was incorrect that there was no Whitehouse fumbling; well, that's wrong. The l_ in chief completely fumbled. I was not aware of the breadth of unhinged TS posting before the fact, giving Iran time to scramble in preparation. The damage to their nuclear program does not appear to be significant, which likely has caused l_ to cancel or delay his briefings to congress.

It appears l_ is the author of the strike, and that jealousy over the significant positive reaction Netanyahu had got over his strike from Fox News initially prompted him to chime in to take partial credit for it, but then he went on to steal the show for himself. Supporting this narrative is Marjorie Taylor-Greene coming out against Fox News for misleading the administration.

I still don't believe this is a trigger to WW3 or a super-conflict. I don't know where it goes from here.

With the facts I currently have, if I were to put on a red hat, I'd say the best argument for good that comes from it is the tactical reassessments enemies must perform faced with Trump rather than cooler heads. Terrorists are used to having the advantage of dealing with bureaucracies who play by rules and now they're up with an opponent who thinks like they do.
The degree of incompetence and performative action here is such that I wonder what exactly happened. The military seems to have performed their role with the utmost professionalism, but their executive is such a buffoon that he essentially nullified their mission in advance. He got to play the tough guy and claim a big success, but nothing much will come of it, other than the continuing and precipitous decline in our international reputation as a serious and reliable partner in the world.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:23 am
Listening to some stuff online. So..."we" really didn't dick away Iran's nuclear capability and only delayed it? :shock:
It looks like your sources are wrong again. :shock:
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Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:10 pm
The degree of incompetence and performative action here is such that I wonder what exactly happened. The military seems to have performed their role with the utmost professionalism, but their executive is such a buffoon that he essentially nullified their mission in advance. He got to play the tough guy and claim a big success, but nothing much will come of it, other than the continuing and precipitous decline in our international reputation as a serious and reliable partner in the world.
And as has already been noted, Iran may actually now acquire nuclear weapons sooner than they would have by themselves because of other nuclear capable nations who are now contemplating giving or selling some of their own nuclear weapons to Iran.
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WW3 start yet?
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 5:26 pm
WW3 started yet?
Are we bombing more folks today than before January 20?
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canpakes wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 5:33 pm
Hound of Heaven wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 5:26 pm
WW3 started yet?
Are we bombing more folks today than before January 20?
The only war Trump kicked off was the epic showdown with the Democrat party and the progressive cult a decade back. I'd say with him in the White House and a Republican house, senate, and a Supreme Court that’s practically a Republican fan club, he’s managed to take down the Democrats and the progressive cult without even needing to break a sweat.

So, are we in the middle of a global game of dodgeball or what? Has WW3 kicked off yet?

So, Dr. CamPP has declared that WW3 is officially underway, and everyone around here is convinced he's a genius! Was he correct?
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 5:49 pm
canpakes wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 5:33 pm
Are we bombing more folks today than before January 20?
The only war Trump kicked off was the epic showdown with the Democrat party and the progressive cult a decade back. I'd say with him in the White House and a Republican house, senate, and a Supreme Court that’s practically a Republican fan club, he’s managed to take down the Democrats and the progressive cult without even needing to break a sweat.

So, are we in the middle of a global game of dodgeball or what? Has WW3 kicked off yet?

So, Dr. CamPP has declared that WW3 is officially underway, and everyone around here is convinced he's a genius! Was he correct?
Ah. You’ve dodged the question. That would seem to reveal the answer. : )
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:49 am
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WWIII? More like World War, please. Imho, WWIII started in earnest in 2022 when Russia invaded Ukraine. Funny how the Axis of Evil actually played a prominent role in this new nightmare.

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As published in Israel Hayom, the Trump administration is discussing a proposal to assist Iran with a sum of up to $30 billion (101 billion shekels) for building a civilian nuclear energy program, sanctions relief, and release of billions of dollars in restricted Iranian funds – all as part of a mounting effort to return Tehran to the negotiating table, according to four sources involved in the matter. The discussions continued this week after a ceasefire agreement was reached.
Remember when MAGATs got mad at OBUMMER for releasing $400M in seized assets back to Iran ref getting them to the table to discuss their nuclear program?

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