Study shows LDS Church participation increases risk to children from abusers

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Re: Study shows LDS Church participation increases risk to children from abusers

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malkie wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:57 am
Morley wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:31 am


MG, Marcus and IHQ are engaged in conversation. They're talking, one to another. If you want to listen in, it's okay. But maybe let them be?

I'm not sure how Marcus is 'canceling' you or getting in your way by talking to another poster. You often complain about this person or that being a board nanny, but here you are, telling another poster to 'shove off,' when they're not even talking to you.



Edited to add that, meh, no one is afraid of Marcus. Marcus is a pussycat.
Marcus will, of course, speak for herself, but I really dislike the "Stubborn woman." comment. I wonder if MG is perhaps taking out his frustrations on Marcus as a proxy for other women in his life that he dare not call stubborn. Anyway, notable that it's not "stubborn person" that he calls her.
:D Thanks, Morley and malkie, I appreciate very, very much the support!

(A couple years back, I kid you not, mg asked me if my husband "approved" of the way I posted. I showed that one to my spouse, he laughed for a week. 8-) )
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Re: Study shows LDS Church participation increases risk to children from abusers

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Marcus wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:36 am
malkie wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:57 am

Marcus will, of course, speak for herself, but I really dislike the "Stubborn woman." comment. I wonder if MG is perhaps taking out his frustrations on Marcus as a proxy for other women in his life that he dare not call stubborn. Anyway, notable that it's not "stubborn person" that he calls her.
:D Thanks, Morley and malkie, I appreciate very, very much the support!

(A couple years back, I kid you not, mg asked me if my husband "approved" of the way I posted. I showed that one to my spouse, he laughed for a week. 8-) )
You're welcome, Marcus.

After all, little girls like you need your big strong men friends to come to your rescue, right? (malkie ducks and dodges as he runs away!)
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Re: Study shows LDS Church participation increases risk to children from abusers

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malkie wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:32 am
Marcus wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:36 am

:D Thanks, Morley and malkie, I appreciate very, very much the support!

(A couple years back, I kid you not, mg asked me if my husband "approved" of the way I posted. I showed that one to my spouse, he laughed for a week. 8-) )
You're welcome, Marcus.

After all, little girls like you need your big strong men friends to come to your rescue, right? (malkie ducks and dodges as he runs away!)
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Marcus wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:07 pm
Bypassing the off-topic abstract rambling:
I Have Questions wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:50 am
Astoundingly, at the point Church Leaders signed off on a statement congratulating themselves for a gold standard for child safety, they knew for a fact they were neck deep in an epidemic of cases of Church Leaders sexually abusing minors. At the point they declared their own gold standard, they were in fact covering up thousands of cases of instititional failure on child safety.

Church Leaders epitomise dishonesty.
it makes you wonder what they really do care about. There are very practical measures the rest of the world puts in place, standardized, universal best-practices measures so that we, as those responsible for children, are being as efficient and as effective as possible. The LDS church doesn't have universal measures, and the few they have are in places where the law, the non-religious law, is forcing them into it. Weigh that against the incredible amounts of time, money, and effort they put into cover-ups and protecting abusive adults, and the only conclusion one can come to is that the LDS church fails in doing their human best to protect children. No amount of abstract 'above my pay grade,' 'just believe,' and 'you're damaged if you don't believe what I believe' hides that.
Well they very obviously care about money, and secrecy, and self aggrandisement. Child safety, not so much. The question that hangs in the air for me (given that it's not a lack of resources holding them back), is why they don't?
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Re: Study shows LDS Church participation increases risk to children from abusers

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malkie wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:57 am

Marcus will, of course, speak for herself, but I really dislike the "Stubborn woman." comment. I wonder if MG is perhaps taking out his frustrations on Marcus as a proxy for other women in his life that he dare not call stubborn. Anyway, notable that it's not "stubborn person" that he calls her.
Oh, I agree.

[Cue MG screed about wokeness.]
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:13 pm
Marcus wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:07 pm
Bypassing the off-topic abstract rambling:
Sheeesh. Shove off, Marcus. I was responding to Chap. You have absolutely NO authority to get in the way of a conversation between other posters. You do NOT control this board in regards to 'canceling' conversation between posters that you may not particularly like to see.

I would encourage Chap and others to actually read the post I made in response to him. If it doesn't warrant any further response, fine.

But doggone it, Marcus. You are a pain in the arse when you keep doing this shenanigans. I would expect others might agree if they weren't afraid of your wrath. :lol:

Cut it out. You've been asked before. Stubborn woman.

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:13 pm
But doggone it, Marcus. You are a pain in the arse when you keep doing this shenanigans. I would expect others might agree if they weren't afraid of your wrath. :lol:

Cut it out. You've been asked before. Stubborn woman.
And once again, MG shows his sexism for all to see. A lifetime in the church has done wonders for MG.

That's some great missionary work, MG.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 5:13 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:13 pm
But doggone it, Marcus. You are a pain in the arse when you keep doing this shenanigans. I would expect others might agree if they weren't afraid of your wrath. :lol:

Cut it out. You've been asked before. Stubborn woman.
And once again, MG shows his sexism for all to see. A lifetime in the church has done wonders for MG.

That's some great missionary work, MG.
Nearly every post of MG 2.0 reinforces my conclusion about Mormonism and having left it 43 years ago. There are Mormons that are great people. MG 2.0 is not counted among them.
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sock puppet wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 6:35 pm

Nearly every post of MG 2.0 reinforces my conclusion about Mormonism and having left it 43 years ago.
43 years? Wow. Pre internet. May I ask, having left the church before online information was available, what was it that caused you to leave the church?

And how old were you at that time?

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Morley wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:31 am
MG, Marcus and IHQ are engaged in conversation.
She said, "Bypassing the off-topic abstract rambling..."

In the post right after my response to Chap.

That is what I called her on.

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