Trump's DOJ: There Is No Epstein List

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Re: Trump's DOJ: There Is No Epstein List

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canpakes wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 12:21 am
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It has not been "their" excuse for years. Your suggestion that has ever been "their" excuse says more about you and your stupidity than it does about "they", you damned retard. It takes a special degree of stupid to make up your lies, and more depravity and stupidity to believe them. But, you go panny, do you.
I’ve heard it before. Even ajax here has said as much when he claimed that the supposed treatment of Romney by the left so many years ago is what galvanized many right-leaning voters to later go with ‘the asshole’ on the right, regardless of his history of fraud, grift and corruption. When other people hear that excuse, what is the expected reaction?

And this excuse has even been given on this board so many dozens of times for acting out and acting badly. I can point you to examples, many from puppet accounts like ‘Atlantic Mike’ (and where is your Hound proxy these days, anyway?).

This isn’t all that bad of a reason, even. It’s just an immature and nonsensical reason given by emotionally crippled individuals. You can always stamp your feet and pretend that the folks who’ve said it and used that excuse didn’t actually say it and use it, but that would just look … retarded of you to do so. But, hey … the alternatives are worse. After all, you can always go with acknowledging that many in the MAGA movement seem driven primarily or exclusively by racism and/or hatred of immigrants. They’re cheering on every example of yanking people out of their lives and kicking them out of the country, even if they are in the midst of the legal citizenship process, and even when they’re showing up to their final interviews. Why? It can’t be that they weren’t playing by the rules, right?

I don’t see much more that MAGA focuses on, and i don’t see the Administration making lives better for Americans in general when we’re trashing our reputation abroad, disparaging our allies and insulting long-term trade partners, turning our backs on any sort of assistance, and playing like Putin’s hand puppet, all while increasing the debt and deficit, and with inflation muddling on and prices on energy, groceries, housing and health care continue their climb.

So what’s in it for MAGA at this point except for the hatred?

And then there’s this:

https://www.southcarolinapublicradio.or ... ?_amp=true

When MAGA suddenly finds itself attempting to resolve tensions between its factions over just how much antisemitism they should embrace, then that’s a sign of serious rot, and an indication of what the movement is largely about.

ETA: predictably, a certain account has just appeared in the ‘who’s online’ list.
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No, that is not what was said, and you know it. You are doing the same thing you always do: you take an argument and you replace it with a cartoon version that is easier for you to attack, and then you pretend you are responding to something real.

The claim is not, and has never been, “people become racist because the left called them racist.” That is your invention. The claim is that the constant, lazy, hysterical use of accusations like “racist,” “Nazi,” “fascist,” “sexist,” and “evil” as default labels for disagreement drives normal people away from the Democrats and toward other options, whether that means voting Republican, voting third party, or simply disengaging. That is persuasion and backlash. It is not conversion into racism. It is not people suddenly “embracing hatred.” It is people rejecting the lunatic moralizing and the bad-faith character assassination that the loudest fringe turns into the whole brand.

You keep trying to make this about your favorite story, that everything reduces to hatred and racism. That is why you keep misreading what people say. You cannot argue the actual point, so you substitute your own version of it and then act like you found a confession. It is dishonest, and it is why talking to you is a waste of time.

If you want to discuss what I actually said, discuss it. If you want to keep inventing motives and beliefs so you can argue with your own imagination, then own that you are not debating me. You are debating the character in your head.

And, on a positive note, you will not be moderating this thread either, idiot.
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Re: Trump's DOJ: There Is No Epstein List

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Whiskey wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 12:57 am
canpakes wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 12:21 am
I’ve heard it before. Even ajax here has said as much when he claimed that the supposed treatment of Romney by the left so many years ago is what galvanized many right-leaning voters to later go with ‘the asshole’ on the right, regardless of his history of fraud, grift and corruption. When other people hear that excuse, what is the expected reaction?

And this excuse has even been given on this board so many dozens of times for acting out and acting badly. I can point you to examples, many from puppet accounts like ‘Atlantic Mike’ (and where is your Hound proxy these days, anyway?).

This isn’t all that bad of a reason, even. It’s just an immature and nonsensical reason given by emotionally crippled individuals. You can always stamp your feet and pretend that the folks who’ve said it and used that excuse didn’t actually say it and use it, but that would just look … retarded of you to do so. But, hey … the alternatives are worse. After all, you can always go with acknowledging that many in the MAGA movement seem driven primarily or exclusively by racism and/or hatred of immigrants. They’re cheering on every example of yanking people out of their lives and kicking them out of the country, even if they are in the midst of the legal citizenship process, and even when they’re showing up to their final interviews. Why? It can’t be that they weren’t playing by the rules, right?

I don’t see much more that MAGA focuses on, and i don’t see the Administration making lives better for Americans in general when we’re trashing our reputation abroad, disparaging our allies and insulting long-term trade partners, turning our backs on any sort of assistance, and playing like Putin’s hand puppet, all while increasing the debt and deficit, and with inflation muddling on and prices on energy, groceries, housing and health care continue their climb.

So what’s in it for MAGA at this point except for the hatred?

And then there’s this:

https://www.southcarolinapublicradio.or ... ?_amp=true

When MAGA suddenly finds itself attempting to resolve tensions between its factions over just how much antisemitism they should embrace, then that’s a sign of serious rot, and an indication of what the movement is largely about.

ETA: predictably, a certain account has just appeared in the ‘who’s online’ list.
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No, that is not what was said, and you know it. You are doing the same thing you always do: you take an argument and you replace it with a cartoon version that is easier for you to attack, and then you pretend you are responding to something real.
What I wrote above is what ajax said. The BS repackaging of the same concept here is your excuse for 5 years and tens of thousands of your own posts across three different accounts needing to be wiped by yourself. If you find those realities difficult to accept and need to replace them with ‘cartoon versions’ that are easier for you to attack, then your argument rests with ajax and yourself.
The claim is not, and has never been, “people become racist because the left called them racist.” That is your invention.
Point to where I said this.
The claim is that the constant, lazy, hysterical use of accusations like “racist,” “Nazi,” “fascist,” “sexist,” and “evil” as default labels for disagreement drives normal people away from the Democrats and toward other options, whether that means voting Republican, voting third party, or simply disengaging.
If you search my past comments, I’ve said on several occasions that it’s preferable to label actions racist rather than people. That said, sometimes people may do as you’re describing above because they’re not ready to examine the reasons for their actions. And if two people are already in disagreement over fundamental issues concerning racism (as example), there may not be a political alignment between those individuals to begin with. But there’s also not much of a reason for, say, a Democrat to suddenly vote Republican because a more ‘left extremist’ Democrat accused the first of being racist for the nuance of a particular position. Switching alignments based on that disagreement alone is either retarded (to use one of your favorite words) or indicates that the person suddenly switching has some emotional issues to work out.
That is persuasion and backlash. It is not conversion into racism. It is not people suddenly “embracing hatred.” It is people rejecting the lunatic moralizing and the bad-faith character assassination that the loudest fringe turns into the whole brand.
You can stick with that line, if you want. It’s what the Republican Party has done as well for decades, as evidenced with the retarded (to again use one of your favorite words) approach loaded into your Hound proxy, with its ‘progressive Marxist trans communist racist plantation terrorist’ narrative. Suddenly, you seem injured by it and act personally attacked when others outside of the right-wing world do it, and you now seek to chastise them. But I’m not so sure that you’ll find too many folks that are going to feel shamed by your sudden concern.
You keep trying to make this about your favorite story, that everything reduces to hatred and racism.
You’ve imagined that this is my ‘favorite story’ which is your problem to address. Nevertheless, there’s an excess of racist energy within the MAGA environment, as pointed out with the link posted upstream about their anti-semitism issue, the weird preoccupation with immigrants to the point of kicking out applicants 99% through their process, the public celebrations and heckling of same, to the leader of the MAGA base yelling on national television about how immigrants are eating other people’s pets.

All of that speaks to racism, to some extent. I won’t apologize for pointing it out, and if that makes you uncomfortable, then your discomfort isn’t my burden to try to shield you from.
That is why you keep misreading what people say. You cannot argue the actual point, so you substitute your own version of it and then act like you found a confession.
I don’t see you arguing the actual point of the cartoon (and don’t bother pretending that it’s literal), and you’re substituting your own argument here for what I commented about afterwards. No surprises, as usual.
It is dishonest, and it is why talking to you is a waste of time.
Then don’t respond to me. Not that you can stop yourself.
If you want to discuss what I actually said, discuss it. If you want to keep inventing motives and beliefs so you can argue with your own imagination, then own that you are not debating me. You are debating the character in your head.
The point is addressed. The cartoon isn’t literal, but the process is accurate. That’s what I’ve seen. Your response was simply to say the equivalent of ‘nuh-uh!’ followed by some obscenities. This may not have been your best work.
And, on a positive note, you will not be moderating this thread either, idiot.
I won’t need to moderate it, because you’ve been taught to behave. Best you can do at this point is try to tuck in just as many dumb obscenities or insults as you believe you can get away with, but you’ll otherwise not act out too much.

However, if you want to believe that I won’t move a post that’s clearly out of line, then you’re always free to test your assumptions.
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The point is addressed. The cartoon isn’t literal, but the process is accurate. That’s what I’ve seen. Your response was simply to say the equivalent of ‘nuh-uh!’ followed by some obscenities. This may not have been your best work.
You fuckin dummy. The process is not accurate, you twat. So, like I said, you keep knockin down those imaginary scenarios and arguments. Dummy.
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Whiskey wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 4:35 am
canpakes wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 4:06 am
The point is addressed. The cartoon isn’t literal, but the process is accurate. That’s what I’ve seen. Your response was simply to say the equivalent of ‘nuh-uh!’ followed by some obscenities. This may not have been your best work.
You fuckin dummy. The process is not accurate, you twat. So, like I said, you keep knockin down those imaginary scenarios and arguments. Dummy.
It’s accurate for more than enough folks, in their own words. Even here.
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canpakes wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 4:46 am
Whiskey wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 4:35 am


You fuckin dummy. The process is not accurate, you twat. So, like I said, you keep knockin down those imaginary scenarios and arguments. Dummy.
It’s accurate for more than enough folks, in their own words. Even here.
No, you fuckin dummy, it is not even fuckin close to anyone's own words, especially here. Jesus damned Christ, panny. Shut the “F” up and lie less.
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Whiskey wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 5:04 am
canpakes wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 4:46 am


It’s accurate for more than enough folks, in their own words. Even here.
No, you fuckin dummy, it is not even fuckin close to anyone's own words, especially here. Jesus damned Christ, panny. Shut the “F” up and lie less.
It’s accurate for more than enough folks, in their own words. Even here.

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canpakes wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 5:23 am
Whiskey wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 5:04 am


No, you fuckin dummy, it is not even fuckin close to anyone's own words, especially here. Jesus damned Christ, panny. Shut the “F” up and lie less.
It’s accurate for more than enough folks, in their own words. Even here.

Your turn. : D
As usual, waste of damned time. Not even worth asking for examples, you lying piece of damned crap.
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Whiskey wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 5:28 am
canpakes wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 5:23 am


It’s accurate for more than enough folks, in their own words. Even here.

Your turn. : D
As usual, waste of damned time. Not even worth asking for examples, you lying piece of damned crap.
Already given above.
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canpakes wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 5:36 am
Whiskey wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 5:28 am


As usual, waste of damned time. Not even worth asking for examples, you lying piece of damned crap.
Already given above.
You strawmanned your imaginary argument and I couldn't give a damn if you spam all over Wanker's thread. Whatever, you lying “F”. Whatever.
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Re: Trump's DOJ: There Is No Epstein List

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Whiskey wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 5:38 am
canpakes wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 5:36 am
Already given above.
You strawmanned your imaginary argument and I couldn't give a damn if you spam all over Wanker's thread. Whatever, you lying “F”. Whatever.
Cool. Thanks.
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