The Book of Mormon apparently condemns the LDS church.
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The Book of Mormon apparently condemns the LDS church.
Apparently the Book of Mormon holds the LDS church in contempt. Watch the following video and consider what is being revealed by the Book of Mormon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC_MA-xBcic
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Re: The Book of Mormon apparently condemns the LDS church.
Please, Nipper, learn this one rule!Universal Rule 10. wrote:Do not EVER "link-and-run." If you post a link to something, always describe its content with enough detail so readers can know, in advance, whether it's worth their time to click on it. (Ideally, explain what's at the other end of it, why it's important, and what you hope other readers / viewers learn from it.) RULE OF THUMB: If it's not worth your time to describe it, then it's not worth our time to click on it.
Which definition applies to your statement?LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2026 6:51 pmApparently the Book of Mormon holds the LDS church in contempt.
Webster:
1. A feeling of intense dislike for someone or something regarded as unworthy of respect or approval
2. Unusual or inappropriate lack of fear or reverence for something
3. The state of being despised
4. Willful disobedience to or open disrespect of a court, judge, or legislative body
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Re: The Book of Mormon apparently condemns the LDS church.
Definition 4. The LDS church spends billions and billions of dollars on buildings and interior decoration well above what it spends on the poor. Expensive Buildings and fine sanctuaries clash with scriptural commands to feed and house the needy. Corporate Vanity it's argued caused church leadership to stray from simple, anti-vanity teachings found in the Book of Mormon.Shulem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2026 7:07 pmLittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2026 6:51 pmApparently the Book of Mormon holds the LDS church in contempt.
Which definition applies to your statement?
Webster:
1. A feeling of intense dislike for someone or something regarded as unworthy of respect or approval
2. Unusual or inappropriate lack of fear or reverence for something
3. The state of being despised
4. Willful disobedience to or open disrespect of a court, judge, or legislative body
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Re: The Book of Mormon apparently condemns the LDS church.
I won't argue with that as there is definitely truth to it. However, the church does pattern itself after the Book of Mormon in building temples, therein there were several temples built, notably in Bountiful, Zarahemla, and the one built by Nephi. Temples were also said to have been built in the land north of the narrow neck (Hel 3:9).LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2026 8:36 pmThe LDS church spends billions and billions of dollars on buildings and interior decoration well above what it spends on the poor. Expensive Buildings and fine sanctuaries clash with scriptural commands to feed and house the needy. Corporate Vanity it's argued caused church leadership to stray from simple, anti-vanity teachings found in the Book of Mormon.
How much money do you think Mormons today should spend on building a temple? Should they limit the number they build? Building temples is a Book of Mormon practice and they were built with quality materials that were available (2 Nephi 5).
Please fill in the blanks:
1. Temple construction maximum budget amount $_____________
2. How many temples should the church be permitted to build? ________________
Which was a severe problem during the reign of king Solomon who commissioned the construction of a very expensive temple that required heavy taxation and conscripted labor. The worship of Jehovah and obeying his prophetic will required a heavy price upon the people of Israel. Constructing the temple and royal palace to the glory of Jehovah was extremely expensive! Recall at the death of Solomon the people cried for relief and begged his heir King Rehoboam to lighten the load and relieve the suffering caused by so much wealth extracted for the temple:LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2026 8:36 pmExpensive Buildings and fine sanctuaries clash with scriptural commands to feed and house the needy.
It could be argued that Solomon would not have made a very good Christian. He loved women, wine, and expensive things.1 Kings 12:4 wrote:Thy father made our yoke grievous: now therefore make thou the grievous service of thy father, and his heavy yoke which he put upon us, lighter, and we will serve thee.
So, what do you think is a fair ratio between money spent on physical facilities and handouts to the poor? The Book of Mormon clearly differentiates a difference between both expenditures but does not specify a ratio or quota in how much money the church may righteously spend on buildings while dealing with poor people who are in need. Who decides how much is enough for buildings and how much is enough for the poor? Bear in mind, there is always a need for buildings and there are always plenty of poor people due to the greedy and selfish nature of men (women too) who control the world.LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2026 8:36 pmThe LDS church spends billions and billions of dollars on buildings and interior decoration well above what it spends on the poor.
How is this settled? How might the Mormon church become more like what you consider to be a Christian church patterned after what Jesus taught in the New Testament? Please don't just cite scripture. I know all of them by heart, memorized, so you need not quote them. Just say it in your own words using the intelligence of your own brain if you can, please.
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Well, remember that the Temple of Solomon was built as the place where a nation would come to celebrate the various Biblical rituals, and where the HOLY SPIRIT resided in the HOLY OF HOLIES that would be later dismissed by the MESSIAH upon HIS cross permanently. The Temple in Jerusalem with its various rituals were set into place by Moses as an illustration of a type of sacrifice for the remission of sins but which were repeated and repeated and repeated, etc., until the MESSIAH finished it all. And of course soon after even that temple was destroyed. Now, up to the time of Solomon's Temple, there was the Tabernacle. And that was made up of poles and curtains. The inner sanctuary was built with upright acacia wood boards overlaid with gold, resting in silver sockets and secured with gold rings and wooden bars. Oddly, even though the Temple at Jerusalem was burned and destroyed, there is no denying that it existed and the evidence of remains to this very day. However, apparently you mention that at the very least 4 temples were built and yet not one has been discovered. Aside from that, Christians should now know that Christ made every believer Temples of the HOLY SPIRIT. So, either way ---- ONE> There was only one temple and that was in Jerusalem. TWO> The Temples accredited to the ancient peoples presented only in the Book of Mormon had significantly fewer temples designed and built. THREE> These temples as presented in the Book of Mormon ALL predated Jesus Christ (much like the Temple at Jerusalem). And FOURTHLY> The redeemed of Jesus Christ are the temple of the HOLY SPIRIT! 1 Corinthians 6:19-20" Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body in your spirit, which are God's. 1 Corinthians 3:16" Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?" 2 Corinthians 6:16" And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: 'I will dwell in them and walk among them. I will be their God, and they shall be My people.'"Shulem wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2026 12:26 pmI won't argue with that as there is definitely truth to it. However, the church does pattern itself after the Book of Mormon in building temples, therein there were several temples built, notably in Bountiful, Zarahemla, and the one built by Nephi. Temples were also said to have been built in the land north of the narrow neck (Hel 3:9).LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2026 8:36 pmThe LDS church spends billions and billions of dollars on buildings and interior decoration well above what it spends on the poor. Expensive Buildings and fine sanctuaries clash with scriptural commands to feed and house the needy. Corporate Vanity it's argued caused church leadership to stray from simple, anti-vanity teachings found in the Book of Mormon.
How much money do you think Mormons today should spend on building a temple? Should they limit the number they build? Building temples is a Book of Mormon practice and they were built with quality materials that were available (2 Nephi 5).
Please fill in the blanks:
1. Temple construction maximum budget amount $_____________
2. How many temples should the church be permitted to build? ________________
Which was a severe problem during the reign of king Solomon who commissioned the construction of a very expensive temple that required heavy taxation and conscripted labor. The worship of Jehovah and obeying his prophetic will required a heavy price upon the people of Israel. Constructing the temple and royal palace to the glory of Jehovah was extremely expensive! Recall at the death of Solomon the people cried for relief and begged his heir King Rehoboam to lighten the load and relieve the suffering caused by so much wealth extracted for the temple:LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2026 8:36 pmExpensive Buildings and fine sanctuaries clash with scriptural commands to feed and house the needy.
It could be argued that Solomon would not have made a very good Christian. He loved women, wine, and expensive things.1 Kings 12:4 wrote:Thy father made our yoke grievous: now therefore make thou the grievous service of thy father, and his heavy yoke which he put upon us, lighter, and we will serve thee.
So, what do you think is a fair ratio between money spent on physical facilities and handouts to the poor? The Book of Mormon clearly differentiates a difference between both expenditures but does not specify a ratio or quota in how much money the church may righteously spend on buildings while dealing with poor people who are in need. Who decides how much is enough for buildings and how much is enough for the poor? Bear in mind, there is always a need for buildings and there are always plenty of poor people due to the greedy and selfish nature of men (women too) who control the world.LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2026 8:36 pmThe LDS church spends billions and billions of dollars on buildings and interior decoration well above what it spends on the poor.
How is this settled? How might the Mormon church become more like what you consider to be a Christian church patterned after what Jesus taught in the New Testament? Please don't just cite scripture. I know all of them by heart, memorized, so you need not quote them. Just say it in your own words using the intelligence of your own brain if you can, please.
People may build all the temples that they wish, but in doing so, there are no special blessings regardless of the costs involved.
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Re: The Book of Mormon apparently condemns the LDS church.
LittleNipper wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2026 2:55 pmWell, remember that the Temple of Solomon was built as the place where a nation would come to celebrate the various Biblical rituals, and where the HOLY SPIRIT resided in the HOLY OF HOLIES that would be later dismissed by the MESSIAH upon HIS cross permanently.
The temple of Solomon (first temple) was completely destroyed in 596 BC and the conditional promises (2 Chr 7:17-20) of an everlasting temple was revoked until the second temple was later built with hope of a new promise. Jesus had quite a problem with the religious establishment of his day and vented his anger in clearing out the moneychangers in the temple. Israel’s temple prospects met its final fate in 70 AD and marked the end of all such things established by Moses and his successors.
And now, a very interesting point, from Joseph Smith’s fabricated stories of the Book of Mormon: The temple built by Nephi was the ONLY existing temple on the face of the entire earth being divinely commissioned by Israelite prophets! Think about that! At that time, there was NO temple in the Old World or anywhere on the planet for that matter until Nephi built one! The Nephites felt like they deserved a temple just as much as those in the Old World. So they built one! But the second temple in Jerusalem had not yet been built.
Did you know that?