Mitt Romney's Paradoxical Amendment Support

Post by **_richardMdBorn** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:07 pm

chonguey wrote:Disagreeing isn't the problem. All of American Politics is built on the idea that we all get to disagree on whatever we want. The problem is a flip-flop to a position to disagree with something you sort of used to agree with. But the worst part is that instead of actually sticking to his guns, he threw his hat in with extreme right wingers and other religious zealot types, votes that a serious contender shouldn't feel the need to court. Why flip-flop to the less-popular and extreme opinion?

Extreme right wingers comprise what percentage of the Republican Party in your opinion? What percentage of the Democratic Party are extreme left wingers?

Post by **_Jason Bourne** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:20 pm

Yes the flip-flopping is a problem!

Have you held the same political views your entire life? Have you never modified a view? Romney is actually fairly consistent in his views and his tweaked
a few issues in a minor way.

Are you as harsh with other politicians? Who do you support and have they flipped at all?

Maybe Mitt is bonding with the "extreme right wingers and religious zealot types," to help promote the idea that the LDS church has "nothing to do with polygamy?" ;-)

Hardly.

Sounds like a move good for his campaign and good for the church!

Sad that your typical objectivity deteriorates into irrationality when a prominent Mormon runs for President.

Post by **_truth dancer** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:03 pm

Hold on Jason,

I think you are reading stuff into my post that was not intended.

I'm am not being overly critical of Mitt. I'm not being harsh or cruel or mean-spirited. Mitt has changed his position quite a bit... or are you suggesting he hasn't?

Whether one thinks it is a problem or not may be up for debate but I think most folks agree he has changed his mind quite a bit.

I'm personally a big Obama fan... ;-)

Sad that your typical objectivity deteriorates into irrationality when a prominent Mormon runs for President.

You didn't notice my * ;-) * I was joking!

This thread is discussing why the change, and why to the far right... just teasing.

Personally, I do not care for many politicians at all... I think Mitt is probably better than most. I think he is like the vast majority of politicians, doing what he has to do to get elected. It is how the game is played. He is not better or worse in this regard in my opinion.

His Mormonism doesn't positively or negatively impact my opinion of him.

:-)

~dancer~

Post by **_Jason Bourne** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:28 pm

Hold on Jason,

I think you are reading stuff into my post that was not intended.

I'm am not being overly critical of Mitt. I'm not being harsh or cruel or mean-spirited. Mitt has changed his position quite a bit... or are you suggesting he hasn't?

I have noted above that I do not think he has changed quite a bit. I think he has modified his view on a few issues. I do not think that is quite a bit.

Whether one thinks it is a problem or not may be up for debate but I think most folks agree he has changed his mind quite a bit.

Many have made much noise about alleged changes to make it appear quite a bit when it has not been quite a bit at all. Most here agree that it has been quite a bit because they are looking for a reason to beat up the Mormon. Other play the flip flop bill ad nauseum. I think it is unfair. I even think it is infair to most politicians. People change views for a variety of reasons. For example, Hillary Clinton is criticized for voting to commit troops to Iraq and now she takes a different view. However the facts have changed and more information is available for her to modify her view. So I think to criticize her as a flip flopper on that is as ridiculous as it was to criticize John Kerry for modifying his view.

His Mormonism doesn't positively or negatively impact my opinion of him.

It seems that many of your comments bring up the Mormon issue so if it is not an influence why do you bring it up?

Post by **_truth dancer** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:52 pm

Jason,

Seriously, it is not just a handful of folks on an LDS MB who think Romney has flip-flopped. And it has nothing to do with his Mormonism. Really...

And, yeah other politicians change their opinions too. It just seems like politicians more than most change their opinions depending on what vote they want. Mitt is no different than any others... IMHO.

Who cares anyway?

It seems that many of your comments bring up the Mormon issue so if it is not an influence why do you bring it up?

Ummm... I'm responding on an LDS message board to a post that is about [b]Mitt Romney, his changing opinions, and Mormonism[/b].

So, yeah, when I respond most likely I will address, umm... Mitt Romeny, his changing opinions, and Mormonism.

:-)

~dancer~

Post by **_Jason Bourne** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:36 pm

Jason,

Seriously, it is not just a handful of folks on an LDS MB who think Romney has flip-flopped. And it has nothing to do with his Mormonism. Really...

And, yeah other politicians change their opinions too. It just seems like politicians more than most change their opinions depending on what vote they want. Mitt is no different than any others... IMHO.

Yes I know others accues him of flip flopping as they do other politicians. For Romney I think it is wrong as it is a couple things that he has changed in a minor way on. Over all the term is so overused it has become meaningless.

Who cares anyway?

Well I thought some who post about it do.

Ummm... I'm responding on an LDS message board to a post that is about [b]Mitt Romney, his changing opinions, and Mormonism[/b].

So, yeah, when I respond most likely I will address, umm... Mitt Romeny, his changing opinions, and Mormonism.

Fair enough