Are there any Mormon "Spitzers?"

[_karl61]

actually if you think about it variety is more instinctual with both the male and female: the male wants as many children as possible and I'm sure the female wants the best male each time - competition. The once fit male may have been weatherd over the years and a new buck may be competing for the females attention. Spitizer just wanted what Solomon or Smith had in their life.

[_Moniker]

Hi Moniker,

Huh. I've been thinking about this news story ever since I heard it. I know my reaction is probably different than others -- yet, I have NO desire to know who people sleep with and think it's ridiculous prostitution is illegal. MORE ridiculous is people being demonized because they have sex.
Anyway, the only thing that bothers me about this whole thing is the hypocrisy of the Gov prosecuting those in the past and then later partaking in the very thing he had prosecuted.

I don't think anyone is "demonizing" anyone for having sex.

I disagree. People are demonized on a routine basis for having consensual relations. I listened to the radio this morning and it was clear to me that the men I was listening to were all over the topic because they enjoyed commenting on this man's behavior. NOT just who he was, his position, etc... WHAT he did -- I mean -- how many hours, what the girl looked like, etc... etc... That is disgusting to me!

The personal sex lives of individuals is their business... however when a public leader is committing felonious behavior, I think it more than a personal matter.

I agree if there is something illegal that occurs it is certainly something that the public should know about. Yet, the press picking up on this and discussing the website OVER AND OVER AND OVER again, talking about the amount of time spent in the room, what he supposedly said to the young woman, what was said to her is really all about getting into this man's sexual behavior and imho is none of my business. It's seedy and tabloidish.

In addition, I see Spitzer's behavior as abusive towards his wife. Lying, deceiving, humiliating, betraying, destroying the lives of those who one supposedly loves, doesn't sit well with me.

Well, plenty of men and women do it everyday and thankfully aren't dragged through the press about it. I feel SOOO sorry for his wife and children. Public humiliation is certainly not something that is helpful.

Unless he was upfront with his wife and they agreed to have an open relationship, (which doesn't seem to be the case), he was clearly abusive. Knowing what I do about sexual addiction, my guess is there was quite a bit more going on than what has come out. With the exception of Spitzer's illegal behavior we may not know all the challenges Spitzer's wife has gone through but I'm pretty sure it has been a horrific situation to say the least.

It's none of my business what occurs in that marriage, it's between a man and a wife. I'm not going to despise a man because he goes outside his marriage for sex - or a woman for that matter. We don't know what was occurring in that marriage and I don't have any desire to know. Again, none of my business. I imagine that more upsetting than what her husband did is her now having to stand beside him and endure the public humiliation of it.

Again, folks can engage in whatever sexual behavior they want so long as they are not hurting others. Maybe I'm wrong but I feel quite certain Spitzer's behavior has seriously hurt his wife and family.

~dancer~

Well, I'm aware that men and women stray all the time and they do so for a variety of reasons. I just am not appreciative of our culture grasping on the scandalous and torrid to publically humiliate people.

I knew my opinion wouldn't be popular. :)

[_truth dancer]

Hey Moniker,

I disagree. People are demonized on a routine basis for having consensual relations. I listened to the radio this morning and it was clear to me that the men I was listening to were all over the topic because they enjoyed commenting on this man's behavior. NOT just who he was, his position, etc... WHAT he did -- I mean -- how many hours, what the girl looked like, etc... etc... That is disgusting to me!

OK, yeah THAT is totally disgusting. I tire of the news turning into a salacious, tawdry gossip show!

For me, the two issues are, one the abuse (I feel quite certain his wife was not applauding his behaviour...he apologized and admitted to behavior that was not "right"), and the felonious conduct while in public office.

I agree if there is something illegal that occurs it is certainly something that the public should know about. Yet, the press picking up on this and discussing the website OVER AND OVER AND OVER again, talking about the amount of time spent in the room, what he supposedly said to the young woman, what was said to her is really all about getting into this man's sexual behavior and imho is none of my business. It's seedy and tabloidish.

TOTALLY with you on this!

Well, plenty of men and women do it everyday and thankfully aren't dragged through the press about it. I feel SOOO sorry for his wife and children. Public humiliation is certainly not something that is helpful.

I feel so sorry for his wife and children as well... it truly sickened me to see his wife standing there, and him putting his hand on her back as they walked out...I wanted to throw up.

Again, I think the fact that he is lying, betraying, cheating, and abusing his wife while engaging in illegal activity is what is making the whole thing public. I think the public deserves to know if the man who is supposed to be heading the attempt to rid the state of crimes is in fact engaging in the very crimes he is supposed to be eliminating.

It's none of my business what occurs in that marriage, it's between a man and a wife.

Do you think it would be important to know if a governor was beating up his wife while claiming to support the effort to reduce abuse?

While of course marriage problems are between a couple, committing felonious crimes and abusing one's wife are not typically behaviors the public allows in their public officials.

I'm not going to despise a man because he goes outside his marriage for sex - or a woman for that matter. We don't know what was occurring in that marriage and I don't have any desire to know. Again, none of my business. I imagine that more upsetting than what her husband did is her now having to stand beside him and endure the public humiliation of it.

No we don't know what happened in the marriage... what does seem to be factual is that he engaged in illegal behavior and he was abusive to his wife; two behaviors that most folks do not easily dismiss in their public officials.

I think the public has a right to know what sort of man is at the helm of the effort to rid their state of crimes.

Well, I'm aware that men and women stray all the time and they do so for a variety of reasons. I just am not appreciative of our culture grasping on the scandalous and torrid to publically humiliate people.

Totally agree with you on this.

I knew my opinion wouldn't be popular. :)

I actually think we agree more than we disagree... :-)

I have seen a lot of abuse, a lot of sexual addiction, a lot of abusive men and my tolerance level is quite low. :-) The shame and humiliation this man brought to his wife and children pretty much puts me over the edge when it comes to giving him a free pass.

~dancer~

[_Moniker]

Okay, we agree on a lot! :)

Yes, I think the hypocrisy is definitely newsworthy. Which, I believe is what the thread was about to begin with and of course I put my .02 in... sorry! :)

I just was disgusted with the news media talking about how sorry they were for his wife, children, etc... and then in the next moment the salacious details were gone over and over again. It's upsetting to me to know that these are people that not only have to deal with a family issue but the entire news viewing audience is in on the aspects that are tawdry. That just bothers me, immensely.

I also think public officials definitely are accountable to their electorate. The double standard of this man prosecuting others for a prostitution ring and then using another ring definitely is problematic. That's an understatement, actually.

[_Boaz & Lidia]

It is funny to watch the Mormons turn their noses up in utter disgust towards the prophet of the FLDS, Warren Jeffs.

They are also completely appalled at his plural marriages and teen brides.

Ignorance is bliss they say.