Turning Heads

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_Blixa
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KimberlyAnn wrote:I don't think there's a problem with ignoring or shunning people who are purposefully hurtful. Sometimes we all have to do that for our own protection.

In most cases, apostates have neither injured, insulted or otherwise harmed the people who are shunning them. Ultimately, and erroneously, Mormons who shun ex-Mormons believe they are doing it for their own protection.

KA


Also, I'm not sure ignoring and shunning are the same thing at all.
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KimberlyAnn wrote:For the past few years, I've been turning heads.

KA


The first line suggested to me that this would be about cleavage. Oh well, just a mild disappointment.

I think this shunning is simply rudeness taken to a higher degree, so that religiously if reflects rather badly on the shunners. As LDS. we should love them both coming and going.
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KimberlyAnn wrote:
Doctor Steuss wrote:I would have just rolled up my window... no need to move the whole car.


You're precious, Studdly!

Sam, I still say we are twins separated at birth! We'll ignore the fact that I was born a good ten years or more before you and that I don't have enough skin pigment. :)

Liz, you're right that their behavior isn't very kind, but I do place some of the blame for their bad behavior on the Mormon church itself. After all, if they believe the church line that apostates are wicked, can we really blame them for shunning those whom they believe to be evil? I dunno.

KA


Honey, it's been a long winter. I'm as white as you. :D *hugs my twin*
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Post by _KimberlyAnn »

Blixa wrote:
KimberlyAnn wrote:I don't think there's a problem with ignoring or shunning people who are purposefully hurtful. Sometimes we all have to do that for our own protection.

In most cases, apostates have neither injured, insulted or otherwise harmed the people who are shunning them. Ultimately, and erroneously, Mormons who shun ex-Mormons believe they are doing it for their own protection.

KA


Also, I'm not sure ignoring and shunning are the same thing at all.


I'm not sure they are, either. At any rate, ignoring someone because of bad behavior on their part is, to me, not the same as shunning in a religious sense. The few Mormons who shun ex-Mormons do it for religious reasons alone. At least that's my experience. Anecdotal only, but there it is.

KA
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KimberlyAnn wrote:I'm not sure they are, either. At any rate, ignoring someone because of bad behavior on their part is, to me, not the same as shunning in a religious sense. The few Mormons who shun ex-Mormons do it for religious reasons alone. At least that's my experience. Anecdotal only, but there it is.

KA


You, more than most perhaps, know me, KA. I'll tell you how many times I've been been shunned by my fellow Christian church-goers: Zero. Never.

I attribute this to the fact that my church makes much of sin but even more of grace.

I cannot even fathom the idea that the "righteous" would shun the "wicked." In my faith tradition, it is understood that, within the Church, the two groups are, in a very foundational, essential sense, isomorphic.

Which is rather the point.

Chris
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Post by _KimberlyAnn »

cksalmon wrote:You, more than most perhaps, know me, KA. I'll tell you how many times I've been been shunned by my fellow Christian church-goers: Zero. Never.


I know you enough to understand that anyone in their right mind would never shun you, Chris Salmon.

I attribute this to the fact that my church makes much of sin but even more of grace.


In my experience, Mormonism makes much of sin, but little of grace.

I cannot even fathom the idea that the "righteous" would shun the "wicked."


That must be nice. I wish I couldn't fathom it!

KA
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