Runtu wrote:It looks like he's just suspended.
Until the MADerators see this thread, that is....
Kamenraider's Posting Privileges Revoked At MADB!
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Re: Kamenraider's Posting Privileges Revoked At MADB!
Until the MADerators see this thread, that is....
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I have quoted from the CHI often on that board, though not recently.
Machina Sublime
Satan's Plan Deconstructed.
Your Best Resource On Joseph Smith's Polygamy.
Conservatism is the Gospel of Christ and the Plan of Salvation in Action.
The Degeneracy Of Progressivism.
Satan's Plan Deconstructed.
Your Best Resource On Joseph Smith's Polygamy.
Conservatism is the Gospel of Christ and the Plan of Salvation in Action.
The Degeneracy Of Progressivism.
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I think they're having another "clean house" fest over there. I have an account I have literally NEVER used and never intend to use, that I keep solely for the purpose of accessing the search engine. Suddenly tonight I'm getting the message I "don't have permission" to even VIEW the board.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.
Penn & Teller
http://www.mormonmesoamerica.com
Penn & Teller
http://www.mormonmesoamerica.com
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The interesting thing is that the intro to the CHI book 1 says it's for all leaders to reference and while I have had direct CHI priveleges, whenever I haven't been in that position (such as when I was teaching 11 year-olds in Primary), I've never been refused access to it, to thumb through it, to read it etc.
Machina Sublime
Satan's Plan Deconstructed.
Your Best Resource On Joseph Smith's Polygamy.
Conservatism is the Gospel of Christ and the Plan of Salvation in Action.
The Degeneracy Of Progressivism.
Satan's Plan Deconstructed.
Your Best Resource On Joseph Smith's Polygamy.
Conservatism is the Gospel of Christ and the Plan of Salvation in Action.
The Degeneracy Of Progressivism.
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Thanks for the welcomes!
There was another polygamy thread fairly recently on which juliann was having a hard time getting people to accept her notion that polygamy is not doctrine now, so she got in one last post and then closed it. This time around she seems to have decided not to do that.
I have a March 1989 copy of the General Handbook of Instructions that says (on pg. 6-5 under "sealing of wife to husband") that "A living woman can be sealed to only one husband". I also have a copy from the 70's that actually says that a woman will have to pick one husband if she is sealed to more than one, but I can't find it now. The 1998 Church Handbook of Instructions says (the question was about living women):
I can't find the current CHI right now either. Juliann was trying to say that we can't say that men being sealed to more than one women in this life (such as my stepdad was; first to his first wife, and then to my mom after she died) means anything such as that there will be polygamy in the hereafter because some living women are, through rare exceptions to the rules, allowed to be sealed to more than one husband while still living, and the CHI no longer says that they'll have to pick one.
The way I see it, an exception doesn't make a rule. Also, I think that the part about picking one of the husbands was probably taken out so that temple workers or Church leaders wouldn't insensitively inform women that they'll have to pick one when they're sealed to more than one husband, thus hopefully not directing their attention to something that they might worry about.
I also pointed out to juliann, etc., how Wilford Woodruff had said in a letter that a woman who received the second anointing and was anointed a queen and priestess to a good man would not be able to be anointed to another man that she was sealed to if the first died. That would limit her to one, I think.
There was another polygamy thread fairly recently on which juliann was having a hard time getting people to accept her notion that polygamy is not doctrine now, so she got in one last post and then closed it. This time around she seems to have decided not to do that.
I have a March 1989 copy of the General Handbook of Instructions that says (on pg. 6-5 under "sealing of wife to husband") that "A living woman can be sealed to only one husband". I also have a copy from the 70's that actually says that a woman will have to pick one husband if she is sealed to more than one, but I can't find it now. The 1998 Church Handbook of Instructions says (the question was about living women):
Living Women
A living woman may be sealed to only one husband. If she is sealed to
a husband and later divorced, she must receive a cancellation of that
sealing from the First Presidency before she may be sealed to another
man in her lifetime (see "Applying for a Cancellation of Sealing or a
Sealing Clearance" on this page).
I can't find the current CHI right now either. Juliann was trying to say that we can't say that men being sealed to more than one women in this life (such as my stepdad was; first to his first wife, and then to my mom after she died) means anything such as that there will be polygamy in the hereafter because some living women are, through rare exceptions to the rules, allowed to be sealed to more than one husband while still living, and the CHI no longer says that they'll have to pick one.
The way I see it, an exception doesn't make a rule. Also, I think that the part about picking one of the husbands was probably taken out so that temple workers or Church leaders wouldn't insensitively inform women that they'll have to pick one when they're sealed to more than one husband, thus hopefully not directing their attention to something that they might worry about.
I also pointed out to juliann, etc., how Wilford Woodruff had said in a letter that a woman who received the second anointing and was anointed a queen and priestess to a good man would not be able to be anointed to another man that she was sealed to if the first died. That would limit her to one, I think.
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