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Question---Can a woman who has a tattoo go through the temple if she adheres to all of the standards such as chastity, tithing, etc.? Does having a tattoo permanently bar her from the temple unless the tattoo is removed?
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Judging a Book by it's Cover..

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What should we be encouraging ourselves to see when we look at others?

7 But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.

(Old Testament | 1 Samuel 16:7)


Could it be imagined that an old and righteous tribal sage might justifiably quote this verse?:

7 Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.

(New Testament | 2 Corinthians 10:7)


And to those that speak before thinking things out:

26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

(New Testament | Matthew 23:26 - 28)
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Those quotes from the same Bible that wouldn't let men serve in the temple if their stones were crushed? Isn't it from the same Bible where Jesus initially refused to help a gentile woman? This is from the same Bible where God almost killed Moses's son because he hadn't circumcised him?
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Hey, Sit down and pull up a couple chairs..

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liz3564 wrote:Question---Can a woman who has a tattoo go through the temple if she adheres to all of the standards such as chastity, tithing, etc.? Does having a tattoo permanently bar her from the temple unless the tattoo is removed?


19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 6:19)


Are tatoos chaste? I dunno. Apparently not.

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asbestosman wrote:Those quotes from the same Bible that wouldn't let men serve in the temple if their stones were crushed? Isn't it from the same Bible where Jesus initially refused to help a gentile woman? This is from the same Bible where God almost killed Moses's son because he hadn't circumcised him?


Same Bible. Weird isn't it?

It's ironic I would depend upon a tool like the Bible with all of it's disfunctionality, but you'd never catch me operating a firearm that's known to backfire.

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Re: Civilizing the Natives..

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Inconceivable wrote:
The Nehor wrote:show me Pacific Islanders that now show contempt for their ancestors for not following a rule that didn't exist.


Let me be specific.

The Mormon God is the same yesterday, today and forever. We just didn't know he hated tatoos till a couple years ago.

I doubt the the children of a father or grandfather imprinted with ancestral legacy would think any less of them. The travesty is that within a generation, the children will have rejected and forgotten another peice of the heritage that makes them unique as a people.

But that's cool though, right? We'll be patient with these cursed sub-cultures that are remnants of a fallen race. They'll come around. They'll even turn pasty white (and somehow no tan is delightsome?).

I'd suggest that cultural uniqueness is not an abomination - except for a handful of ethnocentric white men in a little ivory tower in Salt Lake.


I place far less value on cultural uniqueness then you do. I see most culture as a moral neutral, not worth preserving (or destroying) simply because it is culture. They of course can also ignore Salt Lake if they wish. The U.S. government didn't give my ancestors that option in regards to polygamy which they saw as a key element in their culture.

Side note: Are you for or against the intrusion of European and American civilization destroying Maori cannibalism and polygamy which were elements of their culture?
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Re: Civilizing the Natives..

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The Nehor wrote:I place far less value on cultural uniqueness then you do. I see most culture as a moral neutral, not worth preserving (or destroying) simply because it is culture. They of course can also ignore Salt Lake if they wish. The U.S. government didn't give my ancestors that option in regards to polygamy which they saw as a key element in their culture.

Side note: Are you for or against the intrusion of European and American civilization destroying Maori cannibalism and polygamy which were elements of their culture?


Great point, Nehor (more commendable than your first one). I would consider being invited as dinner to be a downside as well, although I place Mormon adultery within the same subset of this anti social behavior.
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Post by _Mahonri »

Yes, women with tatoos can attend the Temple. Even those with large and glaring tatoos. All they have to do is answer the questions right and have a Bishop and Stake Prez type who know they are OK.

Much rather be in a session with tatooed women than the idiot brethren who chew on toothpicks the whole time.
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Post by _solomarineris »

Mahonri wrote:Yes, women with tatoos can attend the Temple. Even those with large and glaring tatoos. All they have to do is answer the questions right and have a Bishop and Stake Prez type who know they are OK.
Much rather be in a session with tatooed women than the idiot brethren who chew on toothpicks the whole time.


That is accepted.
How 'bout if a woman shows up to interview four earrings dangling?
You can cover tattoos, not earrings.
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