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_beastie
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Re: Unbelievable... seriously!

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Only to those who don't apply the scientific test of faith or who refuse to grow faith into a perfect knowledge.


Scientific test??? Now that's an abuse of the word "scientific".
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Boaz & Lidia wrote:by the way, the latter part of Seth's blog(the one who donated the money to beat up gay marriages) claims that the after he dropped his prop 8 check in the mail, his realtor called to tell him that he got the house(on short sale) that he and his wife wanted! What a BLESSING!!(puke)
This morning we dropped the check into the mailbox and not an hour later our realtor called to say we got the house.


Seth didn't write the OP, it was David.

This is what Seth wrote on Main Street Plaza:

I think this whole campaign by my church is a bad idea. I think the way funds are being solicited in California is sketchy. And I really hate the idea of contributing a a single dime to Church’s who, when they aren’t fighting homosexuals, are publishing hate tracts on Joseph Smith. I’ve always hated the Mormon cultural alliance with the Christian Right, and this particular joint project leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.


He further wrote about "Nine Moons":

Nine Moons is a small Mormon group blog, and we have no pretensions to fairness or “welcoming all viewpoints.”

It’s essentially Rusty’s blog and he makes the rules. He has already openly declared that his comment moderation policy is “if I don’t like what you say, I’ll ban you.” Unapologetic and straightforward.

This isn’t a democracy or a court of law. This is a small social blog that discusses Mormon issues. We have no desire to allow trolls, or allow the conversation to be hijacked in ways we don’t like.

It’s like a dinner party at someone’s home. You are a guest and should behave as one. If you become obnoxious or try to hold the conversation captive to your own agenda, don’t be surprised if Rusty kicks you out.

Apparently somebody started publicizing our blog in certain quarters, and we’ve had a sudden inflow of commenters whom we’ve never seen before until this post. It’s like some agenda-based message board posted David’s post and invited everyone to mosey on over Nine Moons and “give em what for.”


http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=340#comments
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Re: Unbelievable... seriously!

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Only to those who don't apply the scientific test of faith or who refuse to grow faith into a perfect knowledge.

Scientific test??? Now that's an abuse of the word "scientific".


Not at all, being a scientist myself. John 7:17 is quite scientific.
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Boaz & Lidia wrote:Amazingly on that same blogsite named "Nine Moons", one of these nine moons is a man named Silus Grok. Read his bio:
I’m a happy man. I’m richly and undeservedly blessed with the Gospel in my life, friends, a curious mind, work I love, and the time and predilection to follow my heart down less-trodden paths.

I’m also a gay man — and I’m okay with that. I’m no more broken than the next guy, and have no less a claim to the blessings of the Gospel or to life’s amazing bounty. And while I would love to grow old with a husband, I’m willing to forego that for continued membership in the Kingdom of God on Earth.


by the way, the latter part of Seth's blog(the one who donated the money to beat up gay marriages) claims that the after he dropped his prop 8 check in the mail, his realtor called to tell him that he got the house(on short sale) that he and his wife wanted! What a BLESSING!!(puke)
This morning we dropped the check into the mailbox and not an hour later our realtor called to say we got the house.

It was an amazing testiimony of obedience and proving the Lord. It was a request we didn’t like and a gesture that wasn’t easy to perform. And yet, by not tarrying we were quickly blessed with the very thing we needed and longed for.
I am 110% sure he would have still received the call on the house regardless of if or when he paid his prop 8 check. What a tool.


Gays are only cool if they actively propound the mindset of various other gays?
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bcspace wrote:
Only to those who don't apply the scientific test of faith or who refuse to grow faith into a perfect knowledge.

What evidence do you give for you pov besides your own testimony? Besides my own testimony, I have all the witnesses of the scriptures and the prophets.


You don't understand what a scientific test is. One needs controls for confirmation bias, doulble blind proceedures where possible and lot and lots of robust statistics. Anectdote or a personal experience does not constitute a scientific test.

For example, I bet you would not take into account my story would you.
I was more financially blessed by not pay money to the church (or any other such faith based scam). It was about 10%.

There's a datum for you.
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Not at all, being a scientist myself. John 7:17 is quite scientific.


My god. What kind of scientist are you, that you think John 7:17 is scientific? I'm serious. What is your field?
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Not at all, being a scientist myself. John 7:17 is quite scientific.

My god. What kind of scientist are you, that you think John 7:17 is scientific? I'm serious. What is your field?


Rocket scientist!

How is John 7:17 unscientific? You are simply being invited to experience it for yourself.
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bcspace wrote:Not at all, being a scientist myself. John 7:17 is quite scientific.

Oh come on!
So did you go to the same school as Kent Hovind?
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Oh come on!
So did you go to the same school as Kent Hovind?


Never heard of him till now. by the way, you should know by now that I subscribe to Evolution, Big Bang, and String theory as generally agreed upon by most scientists (well, there isn't as much agreement in String theory yet....) and don't see any conflict between them and LDS doctrine.
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Rocket scientist!

How is John 7:17 unscientific? You are simply being invited to experience it for yourself.


Sure, you're a rocket scientist, and I'm Donald Trump in disguise.

Please, what is your field, and what school taught you that "scientific = being invited to experience it for yourself"?????????
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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