DCP "Jokes" Yet Again About His Wealth

[_Mister Scratch]

I have a question for you, LoaP and DoubleAgent: Why do you feel the need to try and dismiss the evidence of DCP's Mopologetic cash flow by way of silly jokes? Do you find it somehow threatening that people might learn that Hamblin, DCP, Midgley, and others have collected payment for doing Mopologetics?

[_Scottie]

I have a question for you, LoaP and DoubleAgent: Why do you feel the need to try and dismiss the evidence of DCP's Mopologetic cash flow by way of silly jokes? Do you find it somehow threatening that people might learn that Hamblin, DCP, Midgley, and others have collected payment for doing Mopologetics?

To be honest, I can't fathom why they hide it??

I see nothing wrong with an organization paying someone to defend them.

[_LifeOnaPlate]

I have a question for you, LoaP and DoubleAgent: Why do you feel the need to try and dismiss the evidence of DCP's Mopologetic cash flow by way of silly jokes? Do you find it somehow threatening that people might learn that Hamblin, DCP, Midgley, and others have collected payment for doing Mopologetics?

Who is making silly jokes? It's a great toilet and I am grateful.

[_Mister Scratch]

I find it very revealing that you found it necessary to edit your post. The truth here is that DCP gets paid for his apologetics. Why do you and other TBMs feel the need to try and gloss over, reduce, or dismiss that basic fact via humor? Why not just accept it? Why try to brush it away?

[_Jason Bourne]

Well, this is very "funny," of course. The reality is that the "lucrative Peterson firesides" actually pay for extremely lavish vacations to all kinds of exotic locales.

Can you list five of these exotic places that DCP traveled too? Can you document who paid for the trips and whether they were FARMS type firesides or BYU trips related to his job there? If they were FARM trips can you demonstrate that FARMS paid or were the expenses of said trip covered by the local people asking him to come? Did he stay at Westin's or Marriott's or Motel Six type places.

Think about all the times that DCP has boasted about his extensive world travels. How many academics of his stature do you know of who travel this much?

I do not know. Do you? My guess is some professors travel a lot and some do not. Perhaps his role at BYU is one where he travels a lot.

DCP's bragging about his travels seems akin to the Wall Street executive who is constantly making mention of his Ferrari, or his 5th Avenue apartment, and so on.

Can you point me to this alleged bragging so I can witness it myself? Are you seriously saying that he is making the kind of money that say an AIG exec is from what he does?

There are many kinds of wealth, after all. What seems clear is that The Good Professor has indeed gotten very, very wealthy off of his Mopologetic activities and associations.

Clear as mud.

[_Jason Bourne]

Some good points here, Dude. And how many of these "celebrity" academics, I wonder, also get to drag their children along for the ride? How many of them get "comped" for what is, in essence, a hobby, rather than an actual scholarly vocation?

Many of DCPs trips relate to his work on ancient texts. Are these hobbies? Also, if his trips are like mine I can take my family with my. I pay their air fare and other out of pocket costs like food and so on. The hotel is already paid for for me so that is free for them as well. I have taken my wife or wife and daughter on a number of such trips. If we stay and extra day or two then I pay the hotel.

How do you know DCP does not make similar arrangements. There is nothing wrong or lavish about this at all.

by the way, please let me know if you find any spelling errors. I would hate to offend you further with my third grade posting.

[_Jason Bourne]

I find it very revealing that you found it necessary to edit your post. The truth here is that DCP gets paid for his apologetics. Why do you and other TBMs feel the need to try and gloss over, reduce, or dismiss that basic fact via humor? Why not just accept it? Why try to brush it away?

He may get paid small sums and have some fringe benefits as well. But he certainly is not becoming wealthy from it. Why do you attempt to make it more than it is?

[_Mister Scratch]

Well, this is very "funny," of course. The reality is that the "lucrative Peterson firesides" actually pay for extremely lavish vacations to all kinds of exotic locales.

Can you list five of these exotic places that DCP traveled too?

1. Paris
2. Cairo (I think...)
3. Australia
4. St. Petersburg
5. England

Can you document who paid for the trips and whether they were FARMS type firesides or BYU trips related to his job there? If they were FARM trips can you demonstrate that FARMS paid or were the expenses of said trip covered by the local people asking him to come? Did he stay at Westin's or Marriott's or Motel Six type places.

Of course I can't, Jason. I am relying on his very frequent mention of his extensive travels. I believe that this is definitely a form of "wealth." Does it therefore matter whether the trips were paid for by either FARMS, BYU, or the "other party"? No, not really. Certainly, like you, I would be interested in learning whether or not DCP stays in Motel 6, or whether he is living it up in 5-star establishments. (I have to admit that I was struck by his rather extensive knowledge of high-priced restaurants in the SLC area. I know the area fairly well and had never heard of those establishments.)

The bottom line here is that he seems to have profited mightily from his involvement in apologetics.

Think about all the times that DCP has boasted about his extensive world travels. How many academics of his stature do you know of who travel this much?

I do not know. Do you? My guess is some professors travel a lot and some do not. Perhaps his role at BYU is one where he travels a lot.

Yes, clearly it is. That's precisely my point. And a good portion of these travels are related to Mopologetics.

DCP's bragging about his travels seems akin to the Wall Street executive who is constantly making mention of his Ferrari, or his 5th Avenue apartment, and so on.

Can you point me to this alleged bragging so I can witness it myself? Are you seriously saying that he is making the kind of money that say an AIG exec is from what he does?

No. I am saying that the bragging is relatively analogous.

[_Mister Scratch]

Some good points here, Dude. And how many of these "celebrity" academics, I wonder, also get to drag their children along for the ride? How many of them get "comped" for what is, in essence, a hobby, rather than an actual scholarly vocation?

Many of DCPs trips relate to his work on ancient texts. Are these hobbies? Also, if his trips are like mine I can take my family with my. I pay their air fare and other out of pocket costs like food and so on. The hotel is already paid for for me so that is free for them as well. I have taken my wife or wife and daughter on a number of such trips. If we stay and extra day or two then I pay the hotel.

How do you know DCP does not make similar arrangements. There is nothing wrong or lavish about this at all.

Huh? What, you also travel to far-flung places such as Paris and St. Petersburg? Personally, I consider that to be rather "lavish." (Let's note, Jason, that you don't go around the messageboards boasting about all the places you've been. Should we assume that you would, provided that you'd been to all these fancy places?) And don't be ridiculous: I don't think there is anything "wrong" about being well-traveled. I freely admit that I'm envious of DCP's extensive travels.

by the way, please let me know if you find any spelling errors. I would hate to offend you further with my third grade posting.

Come now, Jason. It is not my responsibility to proofread your posts for you. Furthermore, your bleating is far more "offensive" than your careless writing.

[_Gadianton]

I had always assumed that most of his travels were associated with BYU, and paid for by the university. The stronger indicators of "wealth" would be conspicuous items like cars, houses, fancy clothes etc.

But Cinepro, my friend, I must respectfully disagree. If you read Thorstein Veblen's masterwork on the subject, Theory of the Leisure Class, "stuff" is just the beginning. On the opposite side are intangibles, like obtaining degrees in dead languages or subjects of no practical value. This is wasteful --- having the time to loaf around learning Latin because one can "afford" to, in sharp contrast to those who must spend their time learning trades and working for their bread.

Certainly, as we learn that Lou Migdley spends weeks in Europe "among the theatres", at once we become insanely jealous over the accustomed life of leisure afforded him. It's not just the money it costs to go on the trip, but the lifetime of obscure educational pursuits that allows him to head out on these kinds of adventures so casually. Yeah, I could save the pennies I earn and go to Europe one day, but that would be as vulgar as saving my pennies to buy a used Mercedes. The leisurely life of an aristocracy can only be communicated through a more complex semiosis, or a language if you will, holistic, and not easily mimicked by targeted aquisitions that would come across as clumsy. A language, it would appear, some of the apologists speak fluently, and almost all of the apologists are dying to learn -- pecuinary emulation, that's what defines the lower tier apologists towards their aristocratic seniors.