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Blixa wrote:
Nightlion wrote:This monitor can see both eyes. Blixa looked more owlish on the old tube.
I think that wild hair on his nose is making him cross-eyed.


It's a bit off topic, but I've been meaning to share this William Blake poem with you Nightlion, so here it is:

A Divine Image

Cruelty has a human heart
And jealousy a human face,
Terror the human form divine,
And secrecy the human dress.

The human dress is forged iron,
The human form a fiery forge,
The human face a furnace seal'd,
The human heart its hungry gorge.


An intriguing sort of composition I dare say.
Is there more to it?
I am only half as shocked as I think I could be.
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Nightlion wrote:An intriguing sort of composition I dare say.
Is there more to it?
I am only half as shocked as I think I could be.


I don't know how familiar you are with Blake's work, so forgive me if this is too simplistic an introduction/explanation.

Blake was both a writer and a visual artist. He was an engraver by trade, but he also made his own works in pencil, ink, watercolour and engraving/copying processes he developed. He was a unique artist and thinker. His religious views were very eccentric: basically he had a great love for the Bible, but felt it had been misunderstood/corrupted by existing religious institutions. Part of his disagreement lay in the taboo against things physical: Blake understood sensual pleasure as an essential part of God's creation and man's senses, all of them, as worthy of cultivation.

He was also iconoclastic artistically, since he did not see word and image as existing in a hierarchy with image subordinate to text: on other words, as mere illustration. In his own work he combined text and image, and while the anthologies we read today print Blake's poems as just words on a page, he originally printed them as complex images where text and picture intertwined, with neither subordinate to the other.

One of his first works was a collection called The Songs of Innocence. This book is comprised of very metrically simple poems expressing the joys of childhood: a time of innocence, a kind of Edenic, pre-Fall world, were the spirit can experience and grow untrammeled by what Blake would later call "the mind-forged manacles" of religion and social convention.

Five years later he returned to the work and added The Songs of Experience. These are a set of poems, most of which take an earlier poem from Songs of Innocence and rework it to express the post-Fall world of the adult where the human spirit is suppressed and forced to conform to social rule and corrupt religious doctrine. (Blake was an English Dissenter, by the way.)

The poem I sent you, "A Divine Image," is from the later work, and exemplifies the fallen state. It's counterpart from The Songs of Innocence is called "The Divine Image:"

Here is "The Divine Image"

The Divine Image

To Mercy, Pity, Peace, and Love
All pray in their distress;
And to these virtues of delight
Return their thankfulness.

For Mercy, Pity, Peace, and Love
Is God, our father dear,
And Mercy, Pity, Peace, and Love
Is Man, his child and care.

For Mercy has a human heart,
Pity a human face,
And Love, the human form divine,
And Peace, the human dress.

Then every man, of every clime,
That prays in his distress,
Prays to the human form divine,
Love, Mercy, Pity, Peace.

And all must love the human form,
In heathen, Turk, or Jew;
Where Mercy, Love, and Pity dwell
There God is dwelling too.
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Blixa on Blake is a thing of beauty. If you (Blixa) ever end up teaching in the Arizona area, please let me know. I would gladly pay to attend a class where such discussion and lecturing was the norm.
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honorentheos wrote:Blixa on Blake is a thing of beauty. If you (Blixa) ever end up teaching in the Arizona area, please let me know. I would gladly pay to attend a class where such discussion and lecturing was the norm.


*blush* thanks!

I had wanted to include images of both poems in their original form, but with the image embedding turned off, it is currently impossible to honor Blake's work as it should be.

I wish I knew Blake better. I've read him for years, but feel like I've only scratched the surface. My sig line comes from one of his "Proverbs of Hell" and I've long wished to get it made into a tattoo. I use bits and pieces of other Blake poems as board names on other sites. On YouTube and Twitter, I'm "Youthful Harlot," and Flickr and Yahoo discussion groups know me as "Bless My Pleasing Woe."

There are a few wonderful Blake watercolours in the collection at the Brooklyn Museum of ARt, including the one that figures so significantly in Thomas Harris's first Lecter novel, Red Dragon. I've seen it in personal audience, just like the character in that book.
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honorentheos wrote:Blixa on Blake is a thing of beauty. If you (Blixa) ever end up teaching in the Arizona area, please let me know. I would gladly pay to attend a class where such discussion and lecturing was the norm.


Amen. Although I wouldn't make it in AZ either.
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Is the a work of art tied to, A Divine Image?
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Blixa wrote:
honorentheos wrote:Blixa on Blake is a thing of beauty. If you (Blixa) ever end up teaching in the Arizona area, please let me know. I would gladly pay to attend a class where such discussion and lecturing was the norm.


*blush* thanks!

I had wanted to include images of both poems in their original form, but with the image embedding turned off, it is currently impossible to honor Blake's work as it should be.

I wish I knew Blake better. I've read him for years, but feel like I've only scratched the surface. My sig line comes from one of his "Proverbs of Hell" and I've long wished to get it made into a tattoo. I use bits and pieces of other Blake poems as board names on other sites. On YouTube and Twitter, I'm "Youthful Harlot," and Flickr and Yahoo discussion groups know me as "Bless My Pleasing Woe."

There are a few wonderful Blake watercolours in the collection at the Brooklyn Library, including the one that figures so significantly in Thomas Harris's first Lecter novel, Red Dragon. I've seen it in personal audience, just like the character in that book.

I'm largely ignorant of Blake except for a few random quotes and impressions of paintings that I think I may have seen before. It was revelatory. You've illuminated a space I feel I need to explore in much greater detail.

Again, beautiful.
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Blixa wrote:His religious views were very eccentric: basically he had a great love for the Bible, but felt it had been misunderstood/corrupted by existing religious institutions. Part of his disagreement lay in the taboo against things physical: Blake understood sensual pleasure as an essential part of God's creation and man's senses, all of them, as worthy of cultivation.

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...very metrically simple poems expressing the joys of childhood: a time of innocence, a kind of Edenic, pre-Fall world, were the spirit can experience and grow untrammeled by what Blake would later call "the mind-forged manacles" of religion and social convention.

A brilliant guy, that Blake, wasn't he?
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Nightlion wrote:Is the a work of art tied to, A Divine Image?


Yes, Google both "A Divine Image" and "The Divine Image" and you will find the pages are they were originally prepared.
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