Bridgett Meyers: The Un-anti-Mormon

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I found Blixa's theme song online, the one they sing at all her birthday parties instead of "happy birthday."


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Oh, and by the way, Blixa is a fraud. She is really a he, and her real name is Blix, not Blixa. I found this photo at the post office today while mailing off some important personal correspondence with the SCMC.


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Droopy wrote:Oh, and by the way, Blixa is a fraud. She is really a he, and her real name is Blix, not Blixa. I found this photo at the post office today while mailing off some important personal correspondence with the SCMC.


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Droopy wrote:
No. I respond, periodically and over time, with assertiveness and passion when I am attacked and baited. The vast majority of my ten year posting history has been civil and idea based


I am sorry Droopy but this is not the case. Just go up to the celestial thread on finances where you did almost nothing but personally attack Harmony. I can double check later but I do not think she did anything to attach you or bait you. You often swoop into threads in full attack rhetoric mode.

. Graham, on the other hand, has no posting history demonstrating civility or intellectual collegiality with his peers. None. Graham's core personality is as far from mine as Godzilla's from Bambi's



Kevin has been civil at times but I agree with you that often his tone is very aggressive and hostile. However I do not think his posts typically lack substance.

But I think neither of you are necessarily narcissistic or intellectually unstable. Not you, not Kevin.


Graham is so absorbed in his own narcissism, self importance, and intellectual snobbery (heaven knows how anyone with Kevin's clear lack of substantive education across a plethora of subjects can attain such dizzying heights of self regard in this sense) that "unstable" is the best that can be said.


Not so. Graham typically backs up his posting with evidence and support. I think he would do better to leave it at that and avoid the cynical snide remarks and personal attacks that he does hurl.

I would add the same for you as well. You can provide support for your argument and often do. But you attack, are snide and snarky and you use too many words.


I notice, Jason, that the only people you ever attack for being aggressive or for pushing back when they're pushed, are the apologists. The critics, no matter how frenzied and ignorant they are, get a pass from you.


Oh this is hardly true. I get after Scratch though less and less because I do not enjoy his style. Also, I have given must support to Dr Peterson here. I have also got after Darrick and locked horns in the past with marg and many others.

However, I do hold the LDS defender to a higher standard because I think the LDS teachings require it. Plus if you as a defender, or will or others are bad examples it reflects more on the Church and apologetics. When Graham or someone else acts like a loose canon they only reflect badly on themselves.

But such are the fruits of apostasy, it seems.


Ah see you could not resist could you. But I expect it of you. Perhaps your snarkiness is the fruits of arrogance that comes from being convinced you posses the one and only truth. It is called excessive piety.
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Jason Bourne wrote:
Droopy wrote:
No. I respond, periodically and over time, with assertiveness and passion when I am attacked and baited. The vast majority of my ten year posting history has been civil and idea based


I am sorry Droopy but this is not the case. Just go up to the celestial thread on finances where you did almost nothing but personally attack Harmony.


Look at this post, for instance, which is in Celestial, for goodness' sake:

viewtopic.php?p=492878#p492878


Droopy wrote:Harmony is an apostate fraud who remains in the church to poison and corrupt the faith and testimony of others, and to pull them out of the gospel and into her own apostate world of self righteous and self serving bigotry.
...

I know some other people in my personal life, and indeed, in my own family, just as immoral, just as fraudulent, just as lacking in integrity, just as phony, and just as sanctimoniously high and mighty when putting on their act of pious moral superiority for the consumption of others, and perhaps I've just run out of patience with it.


What on earth are the mods doing by letting this kind of abuse stay in Celestial? The rules for that forum clearly state:

2. No personal attacks allowed whatsoever.
3. No disrespectful communications allowed. Address the ideas, not the person who posts them.


Droopy's post clearly violates both of those in a blatant manner.
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(1) It's Bridget, not Bridgett. If you're gonna dedicate an entire thread to me, at least spell my damn name right.

(2) I don't go by my husband's surname anymore (which is Meyers, not Myers). My name at birth was Jeffries and I go by that now.

(3) Yes, I removed the post I did on Kevin Graham's bio several months after I posted it---or rather, I clicked "make private" so that it's out of the public eye but not gone. My reason for removing it is confidential. It had zero to do with being embarrassed by my friendship with Kevin or fearing that affiliation with Kevin would cause me to appear "anti-Mormon" or anything of the sort. I have friends all over the Mormon spectrum and I'm not embarrassed by my affiliations with ex-Mormons any more than I'm embarrassed by my affiliations with the people who think horse = tapir.

I think I can count the number of posts that I've removed from my blog after running them on one hand. This was one of them.

Droopy wrote:Can the essay still be read somewhere?

Not presently, though that could change. I'd have to talk to Kevin about it.
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LOL!

I didn't even know this thread was about me until I just read Jack's post.

No, I didn't notice the post had been removed. Wasn't it at least a year ago when it was posted? It doesn't bother me that she removed it. She doesn't owe me space on her blog. At the time she invited me to be a guest blogger but I never got around to writing anything. So I suspect my absence on her blog has more to do with my personal laziness than anything else.
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Having discussed the issue with Kevin and explained why I took it down, I've decided to go ahead and make the post available again:

Introducing Kevin Graham

I think it was a good online bio of Kevin and I'm pleased that others can read it again.
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No. I respond, periodically and over time, with assertiveness and passion when I am attacked and baited


To think that Loran actually believes this is pretty depressing. Could one possibly be more self-deluded?

The first time I knocked heads with Loran he was posting as Coggins and he came at me out of the blue over the Book of Abraham subject. He accused me of being (the usual slurs) that Mormons love to call apostates. Ever since then he has always been the one to initiate hostilities between us. Every time, without exception. He has done so over at MAD recently as well. I never, ever try to engage him. In fact, I don't think anyone does, and it obviously bothers him. How many threads have we seen him start that go nowhere? It is sad. He'll write up a two thousand word diatribe and no one will even comment. So no, he doesn't just respond to critics who "bait" him. He's not that important, and I this bothers him. The reality is he goes after people who have left the faith and calls them every name in the book. He thinks this is his way to get back into the good graces of the Mormons who turned him away - mostly due to his extreme Right Wing ranting that rates a 147 on the Limbaugh scale. No amount of refutation will shut him up. There is dumb, there is ignorant, and then there is Droopy. That's something special. He is the unique kind of bigoted zealot who actually gets energized when he is proven to be a know-nothing. No matter what the topic, this guy's knowledge base is so shallow, and his desire to attack so deep, that it isn't even worth trying to have a discussion with him.

Like I said, I cannot think of a single LDS intellectual who thinks he is worth listening to.
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