What if Joseph Smith confessed to adultery

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Re: What if Joseph Smith confessed to adultery

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Whoops, I meant to say "David," not "Solomon."

Here's the relevant passage:

7 ¶And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, I aanointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;

8 And I gave thee thy master’s house, and thy master’s wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.

9 Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the Lord, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.
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That passage doesn't condone polyandry though. It's a divorce and a remarriage. Joseph was engaged in polyandry.

And let's not get started on laws against marrying sisters.

Lev 18:18

Do not take your wife’s sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living.
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Buffalo wrote:That passage doesn't condone polyandry though. It's a divorce and a remarriage. Joseph was engaged in polyandry.

And let's not get started on laws against marrying sisters.

Lev 18:18

Do not take your wife’s sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living.


No, it doesn't condone polyandry. For that matter, it doesn't command polygyny, either.
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Runtu wrote:
Buffalo wrote:That passage doesn't condone polyandry though. It's a divorce and a remarriage. Joseph was engaged in polyandry.

And let's not get started on laws against marrying sisters.

Lev 18:18

Do not take your wife’s sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living.


No, it doesn't condone polyandry. For that matter, it doesn't command polygyny, either.


Too true. I can't imagine why god might command anyone to take multiple wives, unless god is simply an extension of the id.
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Buffalo wrote:Too true. I can't imagine why god might command anyone to take multiple wives, unless god is simple an extension of the id.


I can't think of any examples other than Joseph Smith. Sarai offered her handmaid Hagar to Abraham so that he could have children, but there's no suggestion it was commanded.
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But the fact of the matter is that he didn't and anyone claiming to be a christian must accept the fact that God has authorized plural marriage from time to time.

No, he didn't. Ever.


If you claim to be a Christian He did. 2 Samuel 12:7-8 for example.

I can't think of any examples other than Joseph Smith. Sarai offered her handmaid Hagar to Abraham so that he could have children, but there's no suggestion it was commanded.


I think the fact that the blessings weren't withheld after that is a pretty good suggestion.
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bcspace wrote:If you claim to be a Christian He did. 2 Samuel 12:7-8 for example.


Heh. Beat you to it.
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If you claim to be a Christian He did. 2 Samuel 12:7-8 for example.

Heh. Beat you to it.


Very nice. Read through vs. 11 for an additional example.
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bcspace wrote:
I think the fact that the blessings weren't withheld after that is a pretty good suggestion.


Why did Joseph break the Biblical rules about not sleeping with other men's wives and not marrying two sisters?
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Re: What if Joseph Smith confessed to adultery

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Why did Joseph break the Biblical rules about not sleeping with other men's wives and not marrying two sisters?


What rules were in effect after the Law of Moses was fulfilled?
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