Yahoo Bot wrote:And he partially threw himself under the bus by saying the he had done something to be "obedient," which is a back-handed slap at his employer. What's the deal, does he lack free will?
I echo a poster's comment above that the real problem here is with Bott's employer. Just my $.02.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
Yahoo Bot wrote:And he partially threw himself under the bus by saying the he had done something to be "obedient," which is a back-handed slap at his employer. What's the deal, does he lack free will?
I echo a poster's comment above that the real problem here is with Bott's employer. Just my $.02.
And yet he remains.
The truth is that his writings reveal that he's behind the times. He can't keep up with church policy and doctrine and yet he's teaching it.
Hey Moderators, please change my last name in this Board to "Bott"
Drifting wrote:I said a day or two ago on a different thread that I was beginning to feel sorry for Bott and that I thought he was being 'scapegoated'.
I have asked this before; what did he say that was incorrect in what the Church has taught or was inconsistent with that which General Authorities have said?
Nothing. Except he forgot that a hand was waved and we were to "forget" everything.
Perhaps they should have used a neurolyzer insetad.
(As everyone knows, neurolyzers worked extremely well in MIB and MIB II.)
David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
Yahoo Bot wrote:The truth is that his writings reveal that he's behind the times. He can't keep up with church policy and doctrine and yet he's teaching it.
Why would he need to keep up with church policy and doctrine? It's not like he works on the cutting edge of technology. The things he is teaching are supposed to be the same yesterday, today, and forever.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
Yahoo Bot wrote:The truth is that his writings reveal that he's behind the times. He can't keep up with church policy and doctrine and yet he's teaching it.
The real problem for Bott and those like him is that no one these days, including the Brethren, knows what God's "doctrine" is concerning the priesthood ban. The Brethren's effort the past 30+ years to 'have it both ways' (i.e., using the "we don't know" tripe while refusing to repudiate past racist teachings and actions of prophets, seers and revelators) has blown up in their face, and now they are scrambling.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
Yahoo Bot wrote:The truth is that his writings reveal that he's behind the times. He can't keep up with church policy and doctrine and yet he's teaching it.
Hey Moderators, please change my last name in this Board to "Bott"
The church knows full well that he has been teaching this stuff to his BYU students for years, and they have absolutely no problem with it. In fact, it's what they want. To BYU students and other members, they would rather prop up the illusion that what the FP said in 1949 is just as valid now as it was then, rather than raise questions about whether we can really trust whether the FP knows what they are talking about at any given time.
It's only because he didn't get the memo that there is a whole other set of beliefs he's supposed to adopt when speaking to the press that he's finding himself in hot water now.
I can't understand how a seemingly rational intelligent person (BYU Prof) could not realize these types of statements would be taken as racist in the real world.
tana39 wrote:I can't understand how a seemingly rational intelligent person (BYU Prof) could not realize these types of statements would be taken as racist in the real world.
Provo is a million miles from the real world.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
It's stuff like this that causes people to think that the Church has "cult-like" qualities. What is all this nonsense about having to get permission before talking with the press? Are these professors, or 12-year-olds? And he chalks up the fact that he's getting censored to "obedience"?
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14