Worship Music

[_Mittens]

Psalm 150
1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.
2 Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness.
3 Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp.
4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.
5 Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.
6 Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD.

Psalm 150 doesn't sound like Mormon music does it .


http://youtu.be/iFdHTorPh24

[_Albion]

Exactly right. Many of those instruments are not even considered "reverent" enough for inclusion in Mormon "worship" meetings.

[_subgenius]

Psalm 150
1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.
2 Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness.
3 Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp.
4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.
5 Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.
6 Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD.

Psalm 150 doesn't sound like Mormon music does it .


http://youtu.be/iFdHTorPh24

wow, a more incorrect inference of what this psalm concludes i have yet to read. This psalm does not make the claim that only loud and bold music is equivalent to "praise"...but i easily see why someone in your position would hope that it did.

let us look at it accurately, verse by verse
1. no real surprise here, praise Him here, there, everywhere...on earth and in heaven.
2. the reason for the already mentioned "praise"
3. ahhh..the trumpet...not intended as a instrument of music here, but as the means by which people were called together (reference also the Moroni statue atop an LDS Temple). The trumpet call is an unmistakable sound that is used in man's most grand and most solemn events...its notes are clear and we are to make our praise as such. This is the cause of the trumpet even as it calls those to fight.
Then we see the introduction of "psaltery and harp"...instruments of a more dulcet nature, they are sweet and soothing instruments...the instruments used after all has been gathered by the trumpet's call.
The real influence of this verse is not as an endorsement of Rocking Spirit Bands with ultimate smoke and light shows that merely promote extravagance, showmanship, pomp, and circumstance. It is a call to use whatever talent and circumstance may be available for the praising of Him...volume and special effects are not necessarily the means to that end, as is witnessed in many churches today.
This verse makes no preference for any method over another, just that whatever is used is used only to Praise, and if anything let the circumstances dictate the manner.
4. again, more extension of the meaning clearly illustrated in 3. However, with regards to "dance"..this is a ntion that is exemplified in both the joyous dancing when we are pleased and the weeping and crying when we are in sadness.
5. ditto...but it should noted that "cymbals" in that time period were more akin to castanets. never the less, the notion of well-tuned is obvious.
6. obvious

as you would exclude methods of Praise in a feeble attempt to elevate your own methods, it speaks to exemplify the tragic flaw in what you deem as "Praise" and for that the talents you may have been given are all but lost...for it does not matter how loud your voice, how swift your feet, nor how extravagant your lighting, you are in fact not Praising Him, you are praising yourself...by your own admission.

[_Mittens]

Now i understand why so many are confused about the distinction between the spirit and "feelings"

I thought that's how you get a testimony of the Book of Mormon, "burning in bosom"

as you have now affirmed, your "thoughts" are often incorrect.

....Psalm 150 doesn't sound like Mormon music does it .

obviously you have heard little..perhaps because you can not hear over the sound of your own voice....

I actually have in Video format Andrea Bocelli with Motab , but there singing the LORD's Prayer, composed by what Mormon's would say Apostate.

Andrea Bocelli outshines Motab , is probably the most popular Motab song. Bettter than "Praise The Man" or Warfaring man"

Mormons just can't produce songs Worshipping Jesus, Bruce McConkie staement might be the reason


Our Relationship with the Lord
BRUCE R. MCCONKIE
Now, it is no secret that many false and vain and foolish things are being taught in the sectarian world and even among us about our need to gain a special relationship with the Lord Jesus. I shall summarize the true doctrine in this field and invite erring teachers and beguiled students to repent and believe the accepted gospel verities as I shall set them forth.
We worship the Father and him only and no one else.

We do not worship the Son, and we do not worship the Holy Ghost. I know perfectly well what the scriptures say about worshipping Christ and Jehovah, but they are speaking in an entirely different sense--the sense of standing in awe and being reverentially grateful to him who has redeemed us. Worship in the true and saving sense is reserved for God the first, the Creator.


http://speeches.BYU.edu/reader/reader.php?id=6843
[url][/url]

[_subgenius]

I actually have in Video format Andrea Bocelli with Motab , but there singing the LORD's Prayer, composed by what Mormon's would say Apostate.

Andrea Bocelli outshines Motab , is probably the most popular Motab song. Bettter than "Praise The Man" or Warfaring man"

congratulations, i am sure there is a reason you are telling this story...maybe...but check HERE

Mormons just can't produce songs Worshipping Jesus, Bruce McConkie staement might be the reason

unlikely but see HERE to understand why it is just your "opinion" and you are not actually proposing an argument just blathering your opinion and engaging in self-promotion for your vast video collection.

Our Relationship with the Lord
BRUCE R. MCCONKIE
Now, it is no secret that many false and vain and foolish things are being taught in the sectarian world and even among us about our need to gain a special relationship with the Lord Jesus. I shall summarize the true doctrine in this field and invite erring teachers and beguiled students to repent and believe the accepted gospel verities as I shall set them forth.
We worship the Father and him only and no one else.

We do not worship the Son, and we do not worship the Holy Ghost. I know perfectly well what the scriptures say about worshipping Christ and Jehovah, but they are speaking in an entirely different sense--the sense of standing in awe and being reverentially grateful to him who has redeemed us. Worship in the true and saving sense is reserved for God the first, the Creator.


http://speeches.BYU.edu/reader/reader.php?id=6843
[url][/url]

it was already obvious that you were a trinitarian (a doctrine of man) and now it is obvious that you have little understanding of Mormon Doctrine and of the scriptures.
Revelation 19:10

But more importantly, what actual measure are you using, in what still remains to be seen, for your opinion of LDS Hymns and inspired music?
or is this simply an argument about whether the throw pillows match the couch?

[_subgenius]

"And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve."
Luke 4:8

Good advice Jesus, good advice.

[_Albion]

Mittens, forgive me for offering a correction. You can only quote McConkie is so far as his explanations support Mormon doctrine...otherwise anything he might have said in Mormon Doctrine is purely his opinion not supported by the Church and should be discounted. Perhaps a better place to start would be the absolutely stultifying Mormon sacrament meeting where there is generally a lack of any kind of expository preaching, where even the mention of the Savior's name is usually relegated to the end of prayers and where the bearing of testimony to the sacred value of Scouting, youth trips and such passes for worship. But then in agreement with subgenious that's just my opinion.

[_Mittens]

by subgenius » Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:52 pm

"And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve."
Luke 4:8

Good advice Jesus, good advice.


Jesus Worshiped and Prayed too him a form of prayer

Matthew 8
1 When he was come down from the mountain, great multitudes followed him. 2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him

Matthew 9:
18 While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead:

Mathew 15:
25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs.

Matthew 28:
9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. 10Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me
Acts 7
59 And they stoned Stephen as he was calling on God and saying, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60 Then he knelt down and cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not charge them with this sin.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

1 Corinthians 1
1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
2 To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:



3 Nephi 19:
18 And behold, they began to pray; and they did pray unto Jesus, calling him their Lord and their God.

22 Father, thou hast given them the Holy Ghost because they believe in ame; and thou seest that they believe in me because thou hearest them, and they pray unto me; and they pray unto me because I am with them.

30 And when Jesus had spoken these words he came again unto his disciples; and behold they did pray steadfastly, without ceasing, unto him; and he did smile upon them again; and behold they were white, even as Jesus.

[_Mittens]

Mittens, forgive me for offering a correction. You can only quote McConkie is so far as his explanations support Mormon doctrine...otherwise anything he might have said in Mormon Doctrine is purely his opinion not supported by the Church and should be discounted. Perhaps a better place to start would be the absolutely stultifying Mormon sacrament meeting where there is generally a lack of any kind of expository preaching, where even the mention of the Savior's name is usually relegated to the end of prayers and where the bearing of testimony to the sacred value of Scouting, youth trips and such passes for worship. But then in agreement with subgenious that's just my opinion.

That talk came from a speach at BYU if you checked hyperlink not Mormon Doctrine, here's Mormon Doctrine that teaches the opposite that Worship to Jesus is OK

Three separate personages — Father, Son, and Holy Ghost — comprise the Godhead. As each of these persons is a God, it is evident, from this standpoint alone, that a plurality of Gods exists. To us, speaking in the proper finite sense, these three are the only Gods we worship. But in addition there is an infinite number of holy personages, drawn from worlds without number, who have passed on to exaltation and are thus gods.

Author: Bruce R. McConkie
Source: Mormon Doctrine
Chapter: 44
Page: 576

[_Albion]

I think I knew that but my point is valid just change it to "he's only a prophet, seer and revelator when he's speaking as such. It solves any consistency problems.