The Law of Consecration Keeps the GA's in Check

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Re: The Law of Consecration Keeps the GA's in Check

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son of Ishmael wrote:Please elaborate about Packer's estate


If you go to the Salt Lake County assessor's page, and put Packer, Boyd K in the search engine, it will bring up what his property is valued at... currently a little over $1.2 million.

That property was purchased for him by the church, with the tithes. A gift that currently is valued at $1.2 million.
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harmony wrote:
son of Ishmael wrote:Please elaborate about Packer's estate


If you go to the Salt Lake County assessor's page, and put Packer, Boyd K in the search engine, it will bring up what his property is valued at... currently a little over $1.2 million.

That property was purchased for him by the church, with the tithes. A gift that currently is valued at $1.2 million.


How do you know it was purchased with tithe money? Is he the only one?
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If true, this might explain why the leadership is so concerned with commercial ventures. They would have a vested interest in increasing the size of the pie from which they all draw.

It might also explain why truly wealthy guys like Romney and Covey and Huntsman Sr. are never called to be GA's. They would never agree to sign over their assets to the church. They all do seem to come from similar upper middle class economic strata.

I don't know if I buy it as a motivation to keep them from defecting, though. I think it's just easy to believe when you've got it so good.
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son of Ishmael wrote:How do you know it was purchased with tithe money? Is he the only one?


Every dime the church has at one time was tithing.

Is Packer the only one? I don't know. Perhaps, since he came from CES at a young age, and most of the others had professions before being called.
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harmony wrote:
son of Ishmael wrote:How do you know it was purchased with tithe money? Is he the only one?


Every dime the church has at one time was tithing.

Is Packer the only one? I don't know. Perhaps, since he came from CES at a young age, and most of the others had professions before being called.



I mean, did the church buy it outright and give it to him?
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Racer wrote:When was the last time anyone ever saw one of the 12 apostles or a member of the First Presidency defect from the church? It happened all the time in the early days.

Now if you believe the church is true, the answer is easy: The GA's don't defect because they have a true witness that the church is true and have communed with Jesus. They have a sure witness and would not defect.



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Sophocles wrote:If true, this might explain why the leadership is so concerned with commercial ventures. They would have a vested interest in increasing the size of the pie from which they all draw.

It might also explain why truly wealthy guys like Romney and Covey and Huntsman Sr. are never called to be GA's. They would never agree to sign over their assets to the church. They all do seem to come from similar upper middle class economic strata.


The same reason the Executives at Lilly Corp, Pfizer, Jensen Pharmacuticals or Marriot Inc. aren't called.
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I seriously doubt that the GAs practice the Law of Consecration. Where's the evidence, beyond the hearsay?
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Sethbag wrote:I seriously doubt that the GAs practice the Law of Consecration. Where's the evidence, beyond the hearsay?


They don't. I have more than a few friends who are related to GAs, some of them very closely related. They tell me what I already knew, that the OP is complete BS.
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Bob Loblaw wrote:
Sethbag wrote:I seriously doubt that the GAs practice the Law of Consecration. Where's the evidence, beyond the hearsay?
They don't. I have more than a few friends who are related to GAs, some of them very closely related. They tell me what I already knew, that the OP is complete b***s***.
Agreed.
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