The Mormon/Catholic ticket

The catch-all forum for general topics and debates. Minimal moderation. Rated PG to PG-13.
Post Reply
_BartBurk
_Emeritus
Posts: 923
Joined: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:38 pm

Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

Post by _BartBurk »

krose wrote:I wonder if Golden Boy Ryan realizes he belongs to the Great and Abominable Whore of the Earth, the Church of the Devil itself?

Of course it doesn't seem to bother him that his hero, Ayn Rand, was a dedicated atheist who hated religion.


I accept the Mormon explanation that this does not refer to the Catholic Church -- that's why the LDS Church forced Bruce R. McConkie to take this out of McConkie's "Mormon Doctrine".
_MCB
_Emeritus
Posts: 4078
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:14 pm

Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

Post by _MCB »

They changed their public image in this respect. However, that attitude remains in LDS culture. How many times does this have to be repeated relative to how many issues, until one realizes that Mormonism shape-shifts like the wind?
Huckelberry said:
I see the order and harmony to be the very image of God which smiles upon us each morning as we awake.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/a ... cc_toc.htm
_DarkHelmet
_Emeritus
Posts: 5422
Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:38 pm

Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

Post by _DarkHelmet »

BartBurk wrote:I don't think Mormons today should be held accountable for what their leaders said in the 19th century unless you find it in their canonized scriptures rightly interpreted.


Obviously the LDS church today is not the same crazy church under Joseph Smith or Brigham Young, and they want to have a good relationship with other faiths. But they have a bad habit of claiming the things their Prophets say come directly from God or Jesus. The quote about other churches being whores and abominations didn't just come from church leaders, it came from Joseph Smith as a direct quote from God and it is canonized in the LDS scriptures. I'm sure the leadership today wishes these things weren't canon, but they are.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die."
- Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
_ludwigm
_Emeritus
Posts: 10158
Joined: Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:07 am

Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

Post by _ludwigm »

Quoting a six (seven, eight) page of text is [dirty word self censored].

Doing it twice? OK, I am looking for another dirty word...

_________________
If I had the [ img ] feature, here may be found an image to support my comment.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
_BartBurk
_Emeritus
Posts: 923
Joined: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:38 pm

Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

Post by _BartBurk »

ludwigm wrote:Quoting a six (seven, eight) page of text is [dirty word self censored].

Doing it twice? OK, I am looking for another dirty word...

_________________
If I had the [ img ] feature, here may be found an image to support my comment.


I'm trying to edit them, but it's taking time.
_MCB
_Emeritus
Posts: 4078
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:14 pm

Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

Post by _MCB »

As multilingual as you are, you can use words like merde. Sounds rather innocuous, doesn't it?

Ils sont completement débile.

C'est connerie.
Huckelberry said:
I see the order and harmony to be the very image of God which smiles upon us each morning as we awake.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/a ... cc_toc.htm
_Infymus
_Emeritus
Posts: 1584
Joined: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:10 pm

Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

Post by _Infymus »

BartBurk wrote:I don't think Mormons today should be held accountable for what their leaders said in the 19th century unless you find it in their canonized scriptures rightly interpreted.


Ah back to the canonized BS with a back door "rightly interpreted".

Pure BS.

Mormon "Doctrine" and related related materials are subject to change without notice. Canonized scripture and all information and related materials it contains, are provided "as is." The Mormon Cult makes no representation or warranty whatsoever regarding the completeness, accuracy, "up-to-dateness", or adequacy of, or the suitability, functionality, availability, or operation of Mormon "Doctrine" talks, books, information or materials it contains. By using Mormon "Doctrine", you assume the risk that the information and materials in said "Doctrine" site may be incomplete, inaccurate, out of date, or may not be rightly interpreted. The Mormon Cult specifically disclaims all warranties, express or implied, including without limitation, the warranties or merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose, and non-infringement with respect to Mormon "Doctrine" and information, facsimiles and materials contained therein.
_BartBurk
_Emeritus
Posts: 923
Joined: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:38 pm

Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

Post by _BartBurk »

Infymus wrote:
Ah back to the canonized BS with a back door "rightly interpreted".

Pure BS.

Mormon "Doctrine" and related related materials are subject to change without notice. Cannonzied scripture and all information and related materials it contains, are provided "as is." The Mormon Cult makes no representation or warranty whatsoever regarding the completeness, accuracy, "up-to-dateness", or adequacy of, or the suitability, functionality, availability, or operation of Mormon "Doctrine" talks, books, information or materials it contains. By using Mormon "Doctrine", you assume the risk that the information and materials in said "Doctrine" site may be incomplete, inaccurate, out of date, or may not be rightly interpreted. The Mormon Cult specifically disclaims all warranties, express or implied, including without limitation, the warranties or merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose, and non-infringement with respect to Mormon "Doctrine" and information, facamiles and materials contained therein.


And because they are subject to change "without notice" we can hope that Mormonism will continue to further align itself with a more Christian understanding of its own scriptures. If Mormons see that as a movement of the Holy Ghost, so much the better.
_MCB
_Emeritus
Posts: 4078
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:14 pm

Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

Post by _MCB »

And because they are subject to change "without notice" we can hope that Mormonism will continue to further align itself with a more Christian understanding of its own scriptures. If Mormons see that as a movement of the Holy Ghost, so much the better.
I suspect your Mormon friends are NOM's. Such an attitude is admirable, but I don't think it is viable in the long run.
Huckelberry said:
I see the order and harmony to be the very image of God which smiles upon us each morning as we awake.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/a ... cc_toc.htm
_Infymus
_Emeritus
Posts: 1584
Joined: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:10 pm

Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

Post by _Infymus »

BartBurk wrote:And because they are subject to change "without notice" we can hope that Mormonism will continue to further align itself with a more Christian understanding of its own scriptures. If Mormons see that as a movement of the Holy Ghost, so much the better.


So how long will it be before Joseph Smith's interpretation of Polygamy and Masonic rituals is found to be inaccurate and the Mormon Cult's International House Of Handshakes is found NOT to be a Christian understanding of its own scriptures?

Never because regardless, money (read: tithing) is precious to them.

Mormons don't want to be a peculiar people anymore yet they still are forced to wear magic underwear, dress up in 18th century costumes and perform Masonic rituals in secret - and then swear to never tell anyone about it. And in that regard, the Mormon God just can't get his crap together and get it right - so the ceremonies keep changing because bad PR Trump's celestial law.
Post Reply