3sheets2thewind wrote:Why me please be truthful you said he was not worthy to attend the Temple.
Read my post again. If it is worse than fornification according to the gospel of why me....
But I am also speaking generally. I have always considered the treatment of others as more important than sexual sins. If an LDS boss treats his workers badly, bullies his workers etc....this is worse than the sin of fornication. LDS should know the gospel of love and give respect to his or her fellow brothers and sisters. We are all members of the same spirit family with the same heavenly parents.
Why me, read my post again.
You posted that Bradford was not Temple worthy, the moderators deleted the post. But you did infact post that Bradford Washington s not temple.worthy.
why me wrote:My concern actually has nothing to do with Dan but rather to how he has been treated. He has been treated unfairly by people who are active in the LDS church. They should behave better. I would defend most people who are being treated wrongly.
It is called empathy. In this case it just happens to be Dan. Lets face it, if Dan were a LDS critic and he was being treated this way, the board here would come to his defense. Right?
Dan is an asshole. Do we have to dredge up all his asinine comments on blogs and news sites? Do we have to dig up all the snide, snippy emails he has shot off from the hip?
Dan loves to call out his own name. He gets what he deserves.
SteelHead wrote:Wait... I thought pahoran was why me's bromance.
Pahoran is a good guy. And he was a god send after my experience on postmo site many years ago. I discovered FAIR discussion board when I was posting on the postmo site. And I wasn't treated that well on the postmo site. And so when I read the FAIR board and read his posts and how he gave it back to the critics, and his logic in countering what the critics were writing, he helped me a great deal. And Dan was no different.
And of course this is one reason why critics do not especially like neither: their logic is compelling when addressing critics. And they do take flak because of it.
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why me wrote:Pahoran is a good guy. And he was a god send after my experience on postmo site many years ago. I discovered FAIR discussion board when I was posting on the postmo site. And I wasn't treated that well on the postmo site. And so when I read the FAIR board and read his posts and how he gave it back to the critics, and his logic in countering what the critics were writing, he helped me a great deal. And Dan was no different.
And of course this is one reason why critics do not especially like neither: their logic is compelling when addressing critics. And they do take flak because of it.
I've never been helped by anyone's caustic remarks or "giving it back" to anyone. I'm funny that way but I believe rancor and mistreatment are always wrong, no matter who is the source. Pahoran is a very intelligent person but it's vastly overshadowed by the bitter invective and apparent joy at mocking and destroying others. I don't think that's heroic or God-sent.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
Cicero wrote:And Pahoran is your hero? I guess you and I have very different ideas about the proper way to treat people you disagree with . . .
Silly Cicero, mistreatment of another person is important only if the person being mistreated is on your side. Mistreatment of your opponents is a "god-send" and heroic.
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"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
Whyme, you posted that Bradford was not Temple worthy, someone deleted the post, but intact posted the Bradford is not worthy to attend the Temple.
Not quite. I said that in my gospel if someone fires someone by email and treats another human unfairly that would be more serious than fornicating. That is how I view the gospel. People need to treat one another with fairness and with love, especially in the church. Do you agree? I know that I would not want to be fired by email by a fellow church member. I would feel hurt that it was done that way. See my point? And Dan was hurt by his experience.
And I am not referring just to Dan but across the board. People should not be fired by email, text message etc. It should be done by conversation.
I think the email "firing" may be totally overblown. It is hard for me to fathom that DCP and Bradford had no communication about DCP's position prior to the email Bradford sent. For all we know, Bradford may have had in-person meetings with DCP and talked about an eventual dismissal. DCP may have refused to physically meet with Bradford or take phone calls. We don't have the whole story. We have one side, Daniel's, despite the testimony of his 11 witnesses.
why me wrote:It is called empathy. In this case it just happens to be Dan. Lets face it, if Dan were a LDS critic and he was being treated this way, the board here would come to his defense. Right?
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see a lot of empathy from you toward those who have lost their faith in Mormonism.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
why me wrote:Not quite. I said that in my gospel if someone fires someone by email and treats another human unfairly that would be more serious than fornicating. That is how I view the gospel. People need to treat one another with fairness and with love, especially in the church. Do you agree? I know that I would not want to be fired by email by a fellow church member. I would feel hurt that it was done that way. See my point? And Dan was hurt by his experience.
And I am not referring just to Dan but across the board. People should not be fired by email, text message etc. It should be done by conversation.
I think the email "firing" may be totally overblown. It is hard for me to fathom that DCP and Bradford had no communication about DCP's position prior to the email Bradford sent. For all we know, Bradford may have had in-person meetings with DCP and talked about an eventual dismissal. DCP may have refused to physically meet with Bradford or take phone calls. We don't have the whole story. We have one side, Daniel's, despite the testimony of his 11 witnesses.
Yong Xi, Peterson and Bradford had meetings before Peterson left. Peterson would not return calls, etc...effectively creating his very much long desired martyrdom scenario.
Peterson stated that his wife suggested he might be fired while they were gone. Now one does not simply pull something like getting fired out of thin air. Peterson knew it was coming. That is why he kept avoiding Bradford.
Ultimately Peterson has achieved martyrdom in his own mind and that of his followers. Just recently ErayE posted that Dan is a hero and we need to take care of him, he posted this in whyme thread about Dan having to leave a second office....as though in this the early 18th century carrier pigeons, pony express, or telegraph are not satisfactory methods of communicating. Nay, Dan must have an office, a second office verily, so that he can "edited"...because as I pointed out the 18th century we are just does not have adequate methods of remote editing and ways for multiple user to edit electronic documents. But given this is the 18th century, wtf is electricity and wtf is an electronic document.