What stood out to me about the two quotes in the OP was that Quentin Cook's son used a verse from Isaiah in his high school yearbook quote. What a dick, LOL.
He'll either be very embarassed by that eventually, or else he's going to be an apostle like his old man, and this will be mentioned again and again and milked for all its worth. Got to establish the righteousness cred, ya know?
I have to say, getting my Sundays back was one of the nicest things about my apostasy. That and avoiding the stultifying effects of sitting through correlated Mormon BS lessons for 2 hours and spending the third listening to mind-numbing talks.
Why, just a week ago I was discussing some shooting matches at my club with a guy I shoot a particular handgun discipline with. I mentioned a Saturday competition in smallbore silhouette, and high-power silhouette on Sunday. He was interested in the Saturday match, but said he couldn't do Sundays. He looked pretty Mormon, and this confirmed it. I enjoyed Sunday's high power match immensely, while this guy was sitting in church having his soul sucked away one gram at a time.
It's so nice to just accept "normal" life, and not feel obligated to waste 14% of it not being able to do the kinds of things I enjoy because an invisible man in the sky won't like it if done on that one particular day.
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Sethbag wrote:
I have to say, getting my Sundays back was one of the nicest things about my apostasy. That and avoiding the stultifying effects of sitting through correlated Mormon b***s*** lessons for 2 hours and spending the third listening to mind-numbing talks.
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It's so nice to just accept "normal" life, and not feel obligated to waste 14% of it not being able to do the kinds of things I enjoy because an invisible man in the sky won't like it if done on that one particular day.
Even on my mission, which I enjoyed and to which I was fully committed, Sundays were my least favorite day. My wife told me the other day she thought I am uncomfortable when I attend Church. I told her it is not so much discomfort as it is pure boredom. I can see the mobile devices becoming a real problem for leadership, as members seek any form of distraction in meetings. Perhaps they already are a problem.
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This. A thousand times this.Sethbag wrote:I have to say, getting my Sundays back was one of the nicest things about my apostasy. That and avoiding the stultifying effects of sitting through correlated Mormon b***s*** lessons for 2 hours and spending the third listening to mind-numbing talks.
Since my husband and I both stopped attending at the same time, and we'd both held leadership positions, we got much, much more time back than just the 3 hour block on Sundays. What a huge change this was for us! We felt like we got our entire weekend back since a good part of our Saturdays were spent preparing for Sunday.
We absolutely love spending our Sundays watching ALL THREE FOOTBALL games each week now!!
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Fence Sitter wrote:It was a long time ago when professional sports were not nearly as lucrative and popular as they are now so his decision then was not nearly as unusual as it would be today. He was not the only player in his draft that elected not to play, there were several others. I have never heard him express any regrets for not playing and in fact I believe he is proud of that decision to this day.
He is very TBMish, as is my mom. Sundays really were treated as a day of rest and worship in our household, as I grew up. No TV, no friends over, no going anywhere except for Church services, no purchases of any sort, we were not allowed to work on Sunday, rigid observation of fast Sunday and so on. To this day he avoids traveling on Sundays and all his vacations are planned so that he can attend Church somewhere. I am pretty sure he would consider a vending machine purchase on Sunday a no-no.
That's good he had no regrets. I was raised in a similar way. I don't remember minding much, though. It was nice to be together as a family with no distractions.
brade wrote:The idea of just floating off into inactivity for something like sports is so foreign to me. I know people like this exist, because I was a home teacher to many of them at one time, and even then it was hard for me to understand this whole drifting into inactivity thing. I want to assume that there's always a more substantive issue under it all, but I guess some people are so, I don't know, lazy about their beliefs that they can get distracted by something like sports.
I don't know anyone that stopped going to church because they wanted to watch football or break the sabbath to play golf. It bothers me when people assume that we are doing something similar. I suppose it's easier for them to believe that, rather than believe we have issues with the church.
Madison54 wrote:This. A thousand times this.
Since my husband and I both stopped attending at the same time, and we'd both held leadership positions, we got much, much more time back than just the 3 hour block on Sundays. What a huge change this was for us! We felt like we got our entire weekend back since a good part of our Saturdays were spent preparing for Sunday.
Ditto! Gaining an extra day or sometimes day and a half, has been so great. With everyone's busy schedules our family now has more time to be together and I feel we've never been closer.