History of 20th Century Racism 101: The Southern Strategy
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Re: History of 20th Century Racism 101: The Southern Strateg
I'm perfectly happy to let all of you stumble and babble, intoxicated with your own delirious moralistic fairy tales to your heart's content, but not without pointing out their obvious flaws:
http://www.claremont.org/publications/c ... detail.asp
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mlassite/risen.html
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism ... ou-To-Know
http://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2013/03 ... ry-lesson/
http://stacyswimp.net/2011/10/03/anothe ... -strategy/
The really funny thing is that the Left lost all of these arguments intellectually long, long ago, but they infected and colonized the major institutions of society, and thereby won the culture, a tragic state of affairs indeed, and the primary reason people like Beastie can spin tall ideologically useful tales such as this with a straight face. Gangs are like that, including intellectual/academic/political ones.
In the meantime, the Left supports and defends the most grotesque regime of intellectual and political institutional racism across a broad spectrum of American institutions (after spending some $16 trillion over a forty year period the primary effect of which was the destruction of the inner city black family) and basks in its own self-anointed moral superiority as its drains civil society of its central organizing principles, blights human lives on a vast scale, destroys the rule of law, tribalizes and balkenizes entire populations by race, ethnicity, and class, and gorges itself on the aphrodisiac of unlimited, unaccountable power while gagging on its own hubris.
I don't know why the links didn't work the first time (as if you couldn't have found them yourselves had you really wanted to), but here they are again:
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/larry-elde ... lack-vote/
http://saintpaulrepublicans.us/blog/201 ... on-racism/
http://www.claremont.org/publications/c ... detail.asp
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mlassite/risen.html
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism ... ou-To-Know
http://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2013/03 ... ry-lesson/
http://stacyswimp.net/2011/10/03/anothe ... -strategy/
The really funny thing is that the Left lost all of these arguments intellectually long, long ago, but they infected and colonized the major institutions of society, and thereby won the culture, a tragic state of affairs indeed, and the primary reason people like Beastie can spin tall ideologically useful tales such as this with a straight face. Gangs are like that, including intellectual/academic/political ones.
In the meantime, the Left supports and defends the most grotesque regime of intellectual and political institutional racism across a broad spectrum of American institutions (after spending some $16 trillion over a forty year period the primary effect of which was the destruction of the inner city black family) and basks in its own self-anointed moral superiority as its drains civil society of its central organizing principles, blights human lives on a vast scale, destroys the rule of law, tribalizes and balkenizes entire populations by race, ethnicity, and class, and gorges itself on the aphrodisiac of unlimited, unaccountable power while gagging on its own hubris.
I don't know why the links didn't work the first time (as if you couldn't have found them yourselves had you really wanted to), but here they are again:
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/larry-elde ... lack-vote/
http://saintpaulrepublicans.us/blog/201 ... on-racism/
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Re: History of 20th Century Racism 101: The Southern Strateg
Just a head's up in case anyone hasn't figured it out by now - droopy doesn't actually read the responses to him. He just regurgitates more of his verbal diarrhea.
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Re: History of 20th Century Racism 101: The Southern Strateg
beastie wrote:Just a head's up in case anyone hasn't figured it out by now - droopy doesn't actually read the responses to him. He just regurgitates more of his verbal diarrhea.
Not reading responses to him? It appears he doesn't even read the sources to which he links.
We need to consider the possibility that his posts are actually satire. How else can you explain his participation on this thread? Let’s review:
- I give a brief history of the Southern Strategy.
- Droopy replies, and I quote, “Lying...again and again and again and again and again and again...will not save this revisionist argument.”
- He then provides us with a link that says:Now to be sure, the GOP had a Southern strategy. Willing to work with, rather than against, the grain of Southern opinion, local Republicans ran some segregationist candidates in the 1960s. And from the 1950s on, virtually all national and local GOP candidates tried to craft policies and messages that could compete for the votes of some pretty unsavory characters. This record is incontestable.
How could this not be satire?
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Re: History of 20th Century Racism 101: The Southern Strateg
In case it hasn't settled in at this point, the "Southern strategy" meme is a political myth created by the modern Left in part to justify the welfare plantation they created to replace the old agricultural plantation they had struggled so momentously to preserve right up into the late 20th century.
Not to say there was no such thing as the Southern strategy, just to say that the modern leftist/Democrat representation of it is pure political puff. Before the 1970s, the Democratic Party was the party of Jim Crow, segregation, and the New Deal. Post 1960s, it became the party of Affirmative Action, racial quotas, identity politics, racial balkanization, permanent tribal grievance, and the Great Society, which eventuated in the attempt to buy the votes of black Americans en masse into the foreseeable future through the gratuities of welfare state.
Who's not reading links? I've given you more than enough to allow you too take off your training wheels and get out and about a bit more intellectually, including two from black Americans, including a group of black Republicans who seem to have avoided the dalliance with Kool-Aid that too many of their fellow citizens have not been able to achieve.
Not to say there was no such thing as the Southern strategy, just to say that the modern leftist/Democrat representation of it is pure political puff. Before the 1970s, the Democratic Party was the party of Jim Crow, segregation, and the New Deal. Post 1960s, it became the party of Affirmative Action, racial quotas, identity politics, racial balkanization, permanent tribal grievance, and the Great Society, which eventuated in the attempt to buy the votes of black Americans en masse into the foreseeable future through the gratuities of welfare state.
Who's not reading links? I've given you more than enough to allow you too take off your training wheels and get out and about a bit more intellectually, including two from black Americans, including a group of black Republicans who seem to have avoided the dalliance with Kool-Aid that too many of their fellow citizens have not been able to achieve.
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I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
- Thomas Sowell
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Re: History of 20th Century Racism 101: The Southern Strateg
Analytics wrote:beastie wrote:Just a head's up in case anyone hasn't figured it out by now - droopy doesn't actually read the responses to him. He just regurgitates more of his verbal diarrhea.
Not reading responses to him? It appears he doesn't even read the sources to which he links.
We need to consider the possibility that his posts are actually satire. How else can you explain his participation on this thread? Let’s review:
- I give a brief history of the Southern Strategy.
- Droopy replies, and I quote, “Lying...again and again and again and again and again and again...will not save this revisionist argument.”
- He then provides us with a link that says:
Now to be sure, the GOP had a Southern strategy. Willing to work with, rather than against, the grain of Southern opinion, local Republicans ran some segregationist candidates in the 1960s. And from the 1950s on, virtually all national and local GOP candidates tried to craft policies and messages that could compete for the votes of some pretty unsavory characters. This record is incontestable.
How could this not be satire?
Read that entire essay again, Analytics, but this time think about it a bit before bleating. Its a complex historical phenomena, not the easy Manichean Jedi vs. the Imperium narrative of the MoveOn.org Left.
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I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
- Thomas Sowell
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Re: History of 20th Century Racism 101: The Southern Strateg
I watched Django Unchained yesterday.
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Analytics wrote:beastie wrote:Just a head's up in case anyone hasn't figured it out by now - droopy doesn't actually read the responses to him. He just regurgitates more of his verbal diarrhea.
Not reading responses to him? It appears he doesn't even read the sources to which he links.
We need to consider the possibility that his posts are actually satire. How else can you explain his participation on this thread? Let’s review:
- I give a brief history of the Southern Strategy.
- Droopy replies, and I quote, “Lying...again and again and again and again and again and again...will not save this revisionist argument.”
- He then provides us with a link that says:
Now to be sure, the GOP had a Southern strategy. Willing to work with, rather than against, the grain of Southern opinion, local Republicans ran some segregationist candidates in the 1960s. And from the 1950s on, virtually all national and local GOP candidates tried to craft policies and messages that could compete for the votes of some pretty unsavory characters. This record is incontestable.
How could this not be satire?
Just a head's up, you might also go back and take a look at the title of Alexander piece, which was The Myth of the Racist Republicans.
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I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
- Thomas Sowell
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Re: History of 20th Century Racism 101: The Southern Strateg
Droopy,
I’m all in favor of having an insightful conversation about the nuances of a complex historical phenomenon. But it seems to me that we can’t have that discussion without first having a basic understanding of the incontestable record of what actually happened.
So in review, I made an original post outlining the incontestable record of what actually happened. You responded with, ““Lying...again and again and again and again and again and again...will not save this revisionist argument.” I have no idea what “the revisionist argument” even is. All I was doing was outlining what did in fact happen.
You then provided a link that reiterates my point: “ Now to be sure, the GOP had a Southern strategy…from the 1950s on, virtually all national and local GOP candidates tried to craft policies and messages that could compete for the votes of some pretty unsavory characters. This record is incontestable.”
Sure, the title of that article is “The Myth of the Racist Republicans.” But please note two things. First, according to the article, this alleged myth is in fact a “viewpoint in scholarly debates on the subject.” So even if it is just a myth, recognize it’s a myth believed by a plurality of scholars. But that’s beside the point—my post wasn’t about the so-called myth of racist republicans. My post was about the incontestable historical record itself.
So if you want to have an intellectual conversation about a complex historical phenomenon, that’s great. But shouting “Lying...again and again and again and again and again and again” in response to a post that outlines the incontestable historical record isn’t an effective way to kick it off.
I’m all in favor of having an insightful conversation about the nuances of a complex historical phenomenon. But it seems to me that we can’t have that discussion without first having a basic understanding of the incontestable record of what actually happened.
So in review, I made an original post outlining the incontestable record of what actually happened. You responded with, ““Lying...again and again and again and again and again and again...will not save this revisionist argument.” I have no idea what “the revisionist argument” even is. All I was doing was outlining what did in fact happen.
You then provided a link that reiterates my point: “ Now to be sure, the GOP had a Southern strategy…from the 1950s on, virtually all national and local GOP candidates tried to craft policies and messages that could compete for the votes of some pretty unsavory characters. This record is incontestable.”
Sure, the title of that article is “The Myth of the Racist Republicans.” But please note two things. First, according to the article, this alleged myth is in fact a “viewpoint in scholarly debates on the subject.” So even if it is just a myth, recognize it’s a myth believed by a plurality of scholars. But that’s beside the point—my post wasn’t about the so-called myth of racist republicans. My post was about the incontestable historical record itself.
So if you want to have an intellectual conversation about a complex historical phenomenon, that’s great. But shouting “Lying...again and again and again and again and again and again” in response to a post that outlines the incontestable historical record isn’t an effective way to kick it off.
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So droopy's just going to IGNORE the fact that I already linked to and heavily cited from the same article he linked a page later, declaring I would never think of such a reasoned argument??
Are you KIDDING me?????
Come on, droopy. Show just a tiny bit of integrity.
Are you KIDDING me?????
Come on, droopy. Show just a tiny bit of integrity.
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beastie wrote:So droopy's just going to IGNORE the fact that I already linked to and heavily cited from the same article he linked a page later, declaring I would never think of such a reasoned argument??
Are you KIDDING me?????
Come on, droopy. Show just a tiny bit of integrity.
If we may go off-topic beastie, doesn’t there exist a set of psychological conditions called “atypical empathic responses?” I don’t want this to come across as a personal attack against anyone—it’s a sincere question in an attempt to understand certain members of our community.
What I’m getting at is that if somebody has a neurophysiological inability to understand the points of view of other people in the same way that others have, say, dyslexia, it might come across as a lack of integrity. Is it possible that an actual neurological disorder could cause somebody to not comprehend that views different from one's own might be morally and intellectually reasonable?
It’s relatively easy to agree that only Homo sapiens can speak about things that don’t really exist, and believe six impossible things before breakfast. You could never convince a monkey to give you a banana by promising him limitless bananas after death in monkey heaven.
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